Why do Religions hate homosexuals, and want to kill them?

[drunkenshoe]

I don't get that, are you saying homosexuality isn't natural but inflicted, or that the mentality of homophobes is what is unnatural and inflicted?

Ffs Munch do you really see that I could be saying homosexuality is inflicted?

Yes, mentality of homophobes is unnatural and inflicted.

Sorry for the bad English.

[the_antithesis]

I was always under the impression that it was about procreating. The anti-gay religions tended to come from harsh environments where people tend to die a lot and what with the constant wars with neighboring tribes over the scarce resources, people died even more. So the tribe needed people to have as many babies as possible to keep the tribe populated and viable. At some point it was set up as a taboo that grew into the icky-poo feelings that is still around today, unfortunately.

[Solitary]

I think the bigotry towards homosexuality, lesbianism, and whites marrying other races is all for the same reason, bigotry from religion puritanism, and white supremacy, where it makes the white race weaker and impure according to ancient Patriarchal customs and culture. Less white children makes the white race weaker, and why anyone that is a mixed race, always called black, red, brown, or yellow. Just read the entire New and Old Testaments and it is obvious where all the ignorance comes from.   

[Sal1981]

I don't buy into the hypothesis that homosexuality became frowned upon by the old monotheistic religions because of an ick-factor. That, to me, seems an too easy explanation. But what do I know, maybe something as simple as disgust became a moral lecture.

[TomFoolery]

I don't buy into the hypothesis that homosexuality became frowned upon by the old monotheistic religions because of an ick-factor. That, to me, seems an too easy explanation. But what do I know, maybe something as simple as disgust became a moral lecture.

I don't think it became that way. I think that has come about rather recently. I think it was frowned upon for procreation reasons and as society became more progressive and began allowing divorce and not stoning women to death for adultery, homosexuality continued to be rejected based on individual comfort level and taught to children as being wrong because the Bible says so, despite the obvious hypocrisy it creates.

[Solitary]

I never thought sex of any kind was icky, no matter what I did, until I saw porn movies.   

[TomFoolery]

Comfort level with sexual relationships and marriage partners has changed considerably over the last few millennia for practical reasons as well as political.

Girls used to marry in their teens because life expectancy wasn’t great and women had no need to be educated or employed in skilled labor, so given that she was on borrowed time anyway with nothing better to do, the sooner she could start churning out babies, the better. Nowadays, we view the idea of a 14-year-old bride as disgusting, because it would deny her a childhood and an education.

A lot of the arguments against homosexual marriage stem from maintaining traditional marriage. You know what used to be very traditional? Cousins getting hitched. When you lived in a small community, pickings could be slim. Moreover, if you were a part of a ruling class, marriage was seen as a political tool for alliances. Anyone who knows a thing or two about genetics and history knows that continued inbreeding tends to produce not-so-good results, such as hemophilia among European dynasties in the 19th century and the famous Habsburg lip that made Charles II of Spain so deformed he was unable to chew his food. So we made it illegal.

Crazy as it sounds, after the ruling came down a lot of people went on a rampage wondering what was next, polygamy, pedophilia, incest? It honestly really made me think about those issues in a way I hadn’t considered them before, and made me confront things about my own preconceptions of non-traditional relationships.

Honestly I have no problem with polygamy. I understand it people worry about it being abused for tax purposes and that’s why we shouldn’t allow it. Well, tax codes can be amended, and if we truly believe love is love and in free exercise of religion, we should allow fundamentalist Mormons the right to marry as many consenting women of a consenting age as they wish. Seems only fair, and it doesn't affect me.

As to pedophilia, it will always be disgusting to me, because it’s predatory. It will never be allowed, because a child cannot consent.

Incest? Honestly, I don’t care. Again, if love is love and brothers and sisters or cousins or whatever want to get married, how will that hurt anyone? It was made illegal on the idea that close relatives produce invalid children, but I fail to see that as a logical argument, especially since it tends to take a few generations of close inbreeding to start churning out some Hills Have Eyes babies, and we don’t tell people who have genes for Huntington’s or Tay Sachs that they can’t have kids. We don’t tell a mother with three severely autistic children she should get sterilized. And it also promotes the idea that marriage is solely about producing children, like we pretend that if two cousins are in love that if we prevent them from getting married they can’t have kids. 

[the_antithesis]

I never thought sex of any kind was icky, no matter what I did, until I saw porn movies.   

Sex is icky and sticky and stains the sheets.

Or the table cloth.

[TomFoolery]

Sex is icky and sticky and stains the sheets.

Or the table cloth.

Or your communion slacks. Too far?

[drunkenshoe]

Or your communion slacks. Too far?

That was good.

[Munch]

Ffs Munch do you really see that I could be saying homosexuality is inflicted?

Yes, mentality of homophobes is unnatural and inflicted.

Sorry for the bad English.

Sorry, I didn't mean a bad assumption, just clarifying what you said. <3

[GSOgymrat]

I don't buy into the hypothesis that homosexuality became frowned upon by the old monotheistic religions because of an ick-factor. That, to me, seems an too easy explanation. But what do I know, maybe something as simple as disgust became a moral lecture.

The idea that disgust influences morality is not my idea but I think there is something to it. I am not expressing the concept very well. Jonathan Haidt has been researching disgust and moral psychology. http://people.stern.nyu.edu/jhaidt/disgustscale.html

I was always under the impression that it was about procreating. The anti-gay religions tended to come from harsh environments where people tend to die a lot and what with the constant wars with neighboring tribes over the scarce resources, people died even more. So the tribe needed people to have as many babies as possible to keep the tribe populated and viable. At some point it was set up as a taboo that grew into the icky-poo feelings that is still around today, unfortunately.

The procreation idea doesn't make sense to me because heterosexual primates usually compete for females. One male can father many offspring. Because homosexual men are not competing for females one would think they would be ignored by heterosexual men rather than badgered into mating with females to produce offspring.

[eylul]

Because they prefer incest releationship or rape the kids.

[Baruch]

drunkenshoe ... you use big words ... and you are a scholar!

[baronvonrort]

Want to kill?

Beheading cures homosexuality in Saudi Arabia, Ahmadinejad said there are no gays in Iran they hang them if they come out of the closet,the Islamic state throws gays from their tallest buildings and stones them to death if they survive the fall.

The only time more than 500 imams protested against anything it was gay marriage in the UK.