New Former Christian Member with a long story

[MoreWinters]

welcome btw :)

Thanks.

[Mike Cl]

I remember seeing an example like this somewhere, that used the same topic. Scary. XD I'm glad you learned to live with your grandmother's use of such an inappropriate word and hopefully, I will learn as well. It just seems so...Ignorant that she would scowl at the fact that a form of love was being legalized when Christianity is supposed to teach about love.

What further drove me nuts was that when she interacted with black people, she treated them just like everybody else.  As a child I often visited my grandparents little farm, way out in the country.  One summer a black family moved in a mile or so down the road.  I was allowed to play with a little boy my age, and my grandmother treated him as she did anybody else--let us come in a get something to drink and stuff like that.  I never saw her treat anybody rude or in a mean manner.  But she would still use that term at home.  Would your mother be hostile to or treat an openly gay person badly if she met them?  This may be a side to her that she shows only within the family or in church.  You don't have to approve, but you may be wise to simply accept it for what it is right now.  And maybe quietly you can change her mind over time.

[Mike Cl]

And, BTW, MoreWinters, my wife is a recovering Catholic.  She changed because of concerns that you experienced.  It took time and had some pain attached to it, but she weathered it and came out okay on the other end.  It will just take some time.

[MoreWinters]

And, BTW, MoreWinters, my wife is a recovering Catholic.  She changed because of concerns that you experienced.  It took time and had some pain attached to it, but she weathered it and came out okay on the other end.  It will just take some time.

It just feels like...
I don't know what to believe.
I understand, I mean the future isn't predictable and that everything said is not always set into stone but still... Everything is just a mess of confusion. Although the letter that was said in front of my parish has surprised me, clearly they don't mean to use the words "tragic" and "error" in the same sentence, do they? I'll just wait till what my mind finally decides on.

[AllPurposeAtheist]

Don't worry MW..My mother had my sister and her twin died at birth and the priest told her that her and dad had to live the rest of their lives as brother and sister to which my mom tossed the fucker out of the house.  The church refused to have anything to do with her burial and funeral because she was buried in my grandparents plot who were definitely not catholic. My dad's family was and mom had converted to the popery.. Anyway, ever since then neither of my folks stepped foot in church except my grandmothers funeral and she lived to 96..
Even my grandmother had little to do with the catholic church after they refused to give her a shred of help in her dying days after years of giving thousands of dollars over the years. .

[Mike Cl]

It just feels like...
I don't know what to believe.
I understand, I mean the future isn't predictable and that everything said is not always set into stone but still... Everything is just a mess of confusion. Although the letter that was said in front of my parish has surprised me, clearly they don't mean to use the words "tragic" and "error" in the same sentence, do they? I'll just wait till what my mind finally decides on.

Coming to realizations of this nature is quite confusing and unsettling.  That is the nature of it.  So, what you are feeling is expected.  But yes, rest assured that the Catholic Church meant what it said in that letter.  It seems you have a good head on your shoulders.  So, take time and trust in yourself.

[Solomon Zorn]

Welcome! I too live in the Midwest - right by the tip of Lake Michigan. We get all the lake-effect snow, but I really enjoy the winter.

[Green Bottle]

Hi MoreWinters an Welcome to the Madhouse...

[MoreWinters]

Thanks Solmon Zon and Green Bottle. (I'm ready for the madness here.)
And it's great to hear that someone else lives in the Midwest! :D Where I am, we get snow that varies from day to day. Oddly, my last winter barely snowed at all.

[Solitary]

  Welcome aboard MoreWinters! Thanks for the excellent intro! Here are three videos of the shyest person I have ever known until she got on stage. You can be whatever you want to be! "The times, they are a changing."  http://youtu.be/vJzOFiy4_LM
http://youtu.be/du5R4Q40WQU
http://youtu.be/poFXdt_pcw0

[MoreWinters]

Thank you Solitary! :D I would be shivering if I ever went on a stage like that but like you said, times are changing and I have to change along with it.