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the unpardonable sin

Started by blue21, June 28, 2015, 01:01:15 PM

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aitm

Quote from: blue21 on June 28, 2015, 01:01:15 PM
Does anyone think they've committed the unpardonable sin that's mentioned in the bible? 

It seems to be attributing Jesus's work to a demon.

meh, god condoned murdering babies and raping little girls, I am not to concerned about sinning, hell I can't even take a free candy bar….
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

GSOgymrat

Quote from: Baruch on June 28, 2015, 02:46:08 PM
Giving a serious answer ... no.

The unpardonable sin is rejecting the Holy Ghost.  You can reject the Father and the Son all you want .... but not the Holy Ghost.

That is how I understand it. Isn't suicide another? A lot of Christians seem to think so.

Ace101

Quote from: blue21 on June 28, 2015, 01:01:15 PM
Does anyone think they've committed the unpardonable sin that's mentioned in the bible? 

It seems to be attributing Jesus's work to a demon.
From what I've read, most Christians nowadays believe that a person who "believes" they've committed an unpardonable sin hasn't actually done so, because they seek repentance.

the_antithesis

Assuming an omnipotent, omniscient god, all sin is god's responsibility anyway.

TomFoolery

Quote from: Ace101 on June 28, 2015, 04:40:53 PM
From what I've read, most Christians nowadays believe that a person who "believes" they've committed an unpardonable sin hasn't actually done so, because they seek repentance.

Depends on the denomination. Many Christians see all sins as equal in the eyes of the Lord, and have different ways for atoning for them. A Baptist would just have to personally ask forgiveness on their own time, whereas a Catholic actually has to go in person and ask a priest for forgiveness. A lot of non-denoms would just say the answer is to accept Jesus into your heart and hope for the best. So even among Christianity, it varies.
How can you be sure my refusal to agree with your claim a symptom of my ignorance and not yours?

Johan

Asking a bunch of atheists if they sin is kind of like asking a mormon to recommend the best brand of lox to go with a bagel.
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false and by the rulers as useful

Baruch

GSOgymrat ... Christians consider suicide to be murder.  And if you kill someone else, you have a chance to repent ... but not if you kill yourself.  So it becomes unpardonable at least by narrowly logical people.  Assuming G-d is omnipotent ... then nothing is unforgivable in principle.  And yes, probably in context, saying that Jesus was doing demonic things ... was a sin against the Holy Spirit, rather than sinning against the Son ... because how can good things be evil.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

1liesalot

Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on June 28, 2015, 01:08:07 PM
I looked at a naked lady and didn't marry her. . :eek:

I take it that you did this 2,000 years before you were born.

Sal1981

Quote from: blue21 on June 28, 2015, 01:01:15 PM
Does anyone think they've committed the unpardonable sin that's mentioned in the bible?
I don't see the point, but anyways: I reject the Holy Ghost.

See ya'll fuckers in Hell.

Baruch

Most people don't realize it ... but most languages are gendered.  The Holy Ghost in both Hebrew and Greek is female .. basically G-d's daughter.  Can't say I could reject G-d's daughter, but that is just the way I am wired ;-)  The Shekhinah/Hokhmah or Presence/Wisdom is also female in both Hebrew and Greek.  G-d's wife.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

PickelledEggs

Quote from: Munch on June 28, 2015, 01:16:17 PM
I farted in a lift once, with a child in a pram.


That which doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. You basically did the kid a favor.

PickelledEggs


Munch

'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin


Gawdzilla Sama

Let's not forget the three Unforgivable Curses.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers