US Supreme Court: Gay marriage legal nationwide!!!

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TomFoolery

#75
June 27, 2015, 04:16:54 PM
Quote from: Jason_Harvestdancer on June 27, 2015, 02:36:56 PM
In 1972 the Libertarian Party made support of gay marriage a part of its platform and nominated an openly gay candidate for President.

Meh, things evolve. I'd rather they evolve for the better than for the worse. Sort of in the way that the South used to be staunchly Democrat. My former Congressman, Ralph Hall was a Democrat for the longest until some polls showed that his district became a Republican majority and he simply switched parties and kept on winning elections. A rose by any other name, ya know?...
How can you be sure my refusal to agree with your claim a symptom of my ignorance and not yours?

trdsf

#76
June 27, 2015, 05:04:50 PM
Quote from: Jason_Harvestdancer on June 27, 2015, 02:36:56 PM
In 1972 the Libertarian Party made support of gay marriage a part of its platform and nominated an openly gay candidate for President. Meanwhile...

"I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage." Barack Obama, November 1, 2008.
"I believe marriage is not just a bond but a sacred bond between a man and a woman." Hillary Clinton, 2004.
"Do you think New York State should recognize gay marriage?" Chris Matthews. "No." Hillary Clinton, 2002.
Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, later ruled unconstitutional, which defined marriage as between one man and one woman. 1996.
Bill Clinton supports "Don't Ask Don't Tell" which forbids military members from mentioning if they are gay. 1994.
Bernie Sanders has been there since at least 1972 as well, so the Socialists have been there as long as the Libertarians.  And you conveniently omit the fact that Obama publicly changed his mind in the middle of a presidential campaign, in 2012, and that both Bill and Hillary have also changed their positions.  At least be fair about it; you imply that they are still opposed, and that's simply and demonstrably not true.
"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total, and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." -- Barbara Jordan

kilodelta

#77
June 27, 2015, 05:16:36 PM
Facebook is lighting up... people who blame Obama and/or those that don't understand the purpose of the Supreme Court.

Example: "I would like to know why 9 unelected people can decide for the entire country on this matter. What happened with "of the people, for the people, by the peoole."
Faith: pretending to know things you don't know

drunkenshoe

#78
June 27, 2015, 05:31:59 PM
Quote from: kilodelta on June 27, 2015, 05:16:36 PM
Facebook is lighting up... people who blame Obama and/or those that don't understand the purpose of the Supreme Court.

Example: "I would like to know why 9 unelected people can decide for the entire country on this matter. What happened with "of the people, for the people, by the peoole."

:doh:

How does anyone claim to believe in "of the people, for the people, by the people" could even be against legalising marriage for everyone in the first place?   
"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

Mermaid

#79
June 27, 2015, 06:11:51 PM
Quote from: kilodelta on June 27, 2015, 05:16:36 PM
Facebook is lighting up... people who blame Obama and/or those that don't understand the purpose of the Supreme Court.

Example: "I would like to know why 9 unelected people can decide for the entire country on this matter. What happened with "of the people, for the people, by the peoole."
oh holy fuck.
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

drunkenshoe

#80
June 27, 2015, 06:34:13 PM
I have just seen this. A few replies to the LoveWins from here. There are some pretty funny stuff too.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/LoveWins?src=hash
"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

trdsf

#81
June 27, 2015, 07:08:32 PM
Quote from: kilodelta on June 27, 2015, 05:16:36 PM
Facebook is lighting up... people who blame Obama and/or those that don't understand the purpose of the Supreme Court.

Example: "I would like to know why 9 unelected people can decide for the entire country on this matter. What happened with "of the people, for the people, by the peoole."
Funny how these are almost universally all the same people who had no problem with the Supreme Court deciding the 2000 election.  Wasn't that "a matter for the states to decide"?
"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total, and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." -- Barbara Jordan

TomFoolery

#82
June 27, 2015, 08:38:18 PM
Quote from: kilodelta on June 27, 2015, 05:16:36 PM
"I would like to know why 9 unelected people can decide for the entire country on this matter. What happened with "of the people, for the people, by the peoole."

I bet they didn't share this opinion when SCOTUS ruled in favor of Hobby Lobby on contraceptives. The Supreme Court is rooted in the fucking Constitution. Like, the original one. Not even the original amendments.
How can you be sure my refusal to agree with your claim a symptom of my ignorance and not yours?

Shiranu

#83
June 27, 2015, 08:57:52 PM
Our local gay bar, Stonewall Warehouse, was vandalized within 10 hours... someone climbed up on the roof and threw about 5 of the gay pride flags hanging into the street.

Butthurt bigots going to be butthurt.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

kilodelta

#84
June 27, 2015, 09:08:00 PM
Quote from: TomFoolery on June 27, 2015, 08:38:18 PM
I bet they didn't share this opinion when SCOTUS ruled in favor of Hobby Lobby on contraceptives. The Supreme Court is rooted in the fucking Constitution. Like, the original one. Not even the original amendments.

I had the same thought... the system is great until it doesn't work in your favor...
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_Xenu_

#85
June 28, 2015, 06:55:16 AM
My best friend is a self described queer, and he mentioned this to me yesterday. My response was kind of meh, its not like we didn't all know this was inevitable.
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Shiranu

#86
June 28, 2015, 07:11:16 AM
Quote from: Jason_Harvestdancer on June 27, 2015, 02:56:46 PM
And "were and are correct" first.

Fine lot of good that did anyone.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

drunkenshoe

#87
June 28, 2015, 07:38:12 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on June 27, 2015, 08:57:52 PM
Our local gay bar, Stonewall Warehouse, was vandalized within 10 hours... someone climbed up on the roof and threw about 5 of the gay pride flags hanging into the street.

Butthurt bigots going to be butthurt.

Let's hope their butthurt will be limited with flags thrown out and nobody will get hurt.

"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

Mermaid

#88
June 28, 2015, 10:27:14 AM
Quote from: _Xenu_ on June 28, 2015, 06:55:16 AM
My best friend is a self described queer, and he mentioned this to me yesterday. My response was kind of meh, its not like we didn't all know this was inevitable.
Hm. That's taking an awful lot for granted. If the SCOTUS were stacked just slightly differently, the outcome could have easily been very different.
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

Solitary

#89
June 28, 2015, 10:35:20 AM
Does this mean I could marry a Mermaid if we wanted to get married?  :eek:  :flowers: :biggrin2:
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