Ohio toddler finds mom's gun, shoots self.

Started by Valigarmander, June 12, 2015, 04:35:43 PM

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Valigarmander

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33115246
QuoteA three-year-old boy has killed himself while playing with his mother's handgun, according to police in Ohio.

The boy shot and fatally wounded himself in the chest after finding the gun at his home near Cincinnati.

In a 911 audiotape release by police, the boy's mother Elizabeth Green is heard reporting the incident.

"My son just shot himself and I'm not getting a pulse," she is heard screaming. Prosecutors are considering whether to charge her.

In the call, she said she keeps the gun in her purse and had set the purse down at home before the tragedy.

"The gun is mine. It is in the house, I carry it in my purse, I laid it down. We just got home," the mother told the 911 operator.

The boy has been identified as Marques Green, according to local media.

A detective was seen leaving the home with a small black handgun, and placing it into an evidence bag.

This is the second accidental shooting death of a child this month in this region of Ohio.

About 100 children die in the US every year in accidental shootings, according to data compiled by Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America.
"This is the second accidental shooting death of a child... this month... in this region of Ohio."

dtq123

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drunkenshoe

Not this again. Ooof. How is this a tragedy anymore? Why the fuck she is getting around with a gun in her purse in day time. Where do these people live? What kind of a place is that you need to carry a gun in your purse going out with your 3 year old toddler?
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Munch

america should have a law, anyone with a child be withheld from having firearms in the house until the child reaches of age they themselves would be counted as legal by law to carry one.
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aitm

You know, after watching the "history" unfold across the world for the last 50 some odd years, it appears that although we "usa" lose a may people to self-inflicted-accidental gun deaths, I look at places where people have no guns and wonder what would be if 90% of Iranians or Iraq's or Afghanitan's or hell most of any fucking African country had ready access to a gun. How many little children in north africa would die of self inflicted incidents versus those getting their limbs chopped off by fucktards?

I gotta admit….I have less arguments any more.
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Mike Cl

Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 12, 2015, 05:38:38 PM
Not this again. Ooof. How is this a tragedy anymore? Why the fuck she is getting around with a gun in her purse in day time. Where do these people live? What kind of a place is that you need to carry a gun in your purse going out with your 3 year old toddler?
This is the US or gun; didn't you know?  Besides, both the kid and mommy must be just stupid, since as the NRA tells us, people kill people, not guns.  I mean, if mommy had a knife in her purse that knife could have been retrieved and used to stab himself to death.  The NRA is the corporate shill that ensures that guns are everywhere--it's out right!
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Aletheia

A gun can only keep you safe if you change your lifestyle to accommodate all the responsibilities associated with owning a gun. She assumed she sat her purse down around a toddler - which can be annoying as toddlers like to get into all sorts of things. In reality, she sat a loaded gun down within reach of a toddler - which puts the power to destroy in the hands of child who is incapable of understanding what a gun is, let alone the implications of its use. Her carelessness is what caused the child's death. At worst, this is a form of murder... at best, this is involuntary manslaughter.

If guns were treated in our society for what they are - weapons, then people would be forced to really think about whether a gun is truly necessary in their life. A weapon is required when you feel your life is at risk and diplomacy is no longer an option. In such scenarios, you remove a threat that cannot be dissuaded by any means and therefore must be terminated so that you may live. The possibility of killing another person should never be a trivial decision or else you introduce the possibility of someone else killing you for trivial reasons.

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Solitary

Guns obviously make it too easy to kill if even a toddler can do it. Guns do not make us safer period, when every Tom Dick and Harriet has one. Poverty and desperation of people not having money is the root of all evil more than the love of money, but they do seem to support each other. Why has the world gotten to the pointe that we need guns to protect ourselves? I'm sure over population and poverty has something to do with it, and both are caused by irresponsible ignorance. 
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

trdsf

Quote from: Munch on June 12, 2015, 06:59:49 PM
america should have a law, anyone with a child be withheld from having firearms in the house until the child reaches of age they themselves would be counted as legal by law to carry one.
Oh, you can't have that.  The NRA says if anyone is ever denied a gun in this country for any reason whatsoever, China will invade immediately!  Or is it North Korea?  Canada?  Well, one of them, anyway.  Apparently the tanks are already massed on the border just waiting for their chance.
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AllPurposeAtheist

Reap what you sow Republicans. . They sow death and destruction with policies designed to divide and to encourage hatred of people.
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Atheon

I'm sure the NRA is celebrating this now. Another of their objectives achieved.
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AllPurposeAtheist

Hey,  that's John Boehner's stomping grounds so it must be perfectly constitutional there..
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trdsf

Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on June 13, 2015, 04:28:21 AM
Hey,  that's John Boehner's stomping grounds so it must be perfectly constitutional there..
I try very hard to pretend I don't share a state with that idiot.  If he'd stand up to the wingnuts on his side of the aisle, I might have a little respect for him, but he doesn't, so I don't.  He's so desperate to hang on to power, he doesn't care what devil he has to make a deal with... and he ends up having no power at all since he's completely under the thrall of the teabaggers, who'll be perfectly happy to vote him out of office if they don't get their way all the time.

Under normal political circumstances, he'd be a plain old stodgy Buckeye Republican rather than the tool of lunatics -- think Jerry Ford but with less charisma, and well described by the phrase 'mostly harmless'.
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Jason78

How many more tragedies like this have to happen before guns are made with safety features to prevent this?
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You can't "defend" yourself with a gun, you can only counter aggression with more aggression.
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