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Started by Mermaid, May 21, 2015, 08:39:09 PM

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Mermaid

It was only a matter of time before something scandalous broke about the Duggars.
The Executive Director of an anti-gay Christian organization, Josh Duggar admits to molesting girls when he was a teenager, including some of his sisters.
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Josh Duggar has resigned as Executive Director of the Family Research Council, acknowledging he sexually molested underage girls including some of his sisters, calling his conduct inexcusable.

Josh just told People, "Twelve years ago, as a young teenager. I acted inexcusably for which I am extremely sorry and deeply regret."  He continues, "We spoke with authorities where I confessed my wrongdoing, and my parents arranged for me and those affected by my actions to receive counseling."

The molestations occurred in 2002 and 2003, when he was 14. He fondled the genitals and breasts of the girls, some of whom were sleeping.

Josh's wife Anna says he confessed his "past teenage mistakes" to her 2 years before he asked her to marry him.

The incidents were not reported to police until 2006, and the statute of limitations has now long since passed. But Josh says he believes God has shown him mercy and given him redemption.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/05/21/josh-duggar-admits-molestation-statement-resigns-confessed-sex-scandal-wife/#ixzz3aodRUoU8
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Johan

What will he do now that he can no longer hate gays for a living?
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Ace101

Conservative Christian family values for ya, folks!

aitm

god always grants mercy and redemption when one can't be prosecuted… gotta love good ole god for that
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AllPurposeAtheist

Can we just line up and take turns kicking him in the balls now?
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trdsf

Quote from: Mermaid on May 21, 2015, 08:39:09 PM
The incidents were not reported to police until 2006, and the statute of limitations has now long since passed. But Josh says he believes God has shown him mercy and given him redemption.
If he were really repentant he wouldn't have waited for the statute of limitations to expire.  Another self-serving hypocrite... no shocker there.
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TomFoolery

Quote from: Mermaid on May 21, 2015, 08:39:09 PM
It was only a matter of time before something scandalous broke about the Duggars.

What do you mean only a matter of time? They've had plenty of scandals, including disowning family members for getting pregnant out of wedlock, publicly stating transsexuals use bathrooms to molest children (irony much?), and deleting photos of homosexual and interracial couples from their page after they openly invited people to post photos of married people kissing on Facebook. Somehow the brain dead of America are happy to overlook the fact that the Duggars belong to a cult that oppresses women, hates education, and proudly judge people who aren't their brand of Christians.

How it is that many people who watch the show have deluded themselves into imagining the Duggars are some modern-day Little House on the Prairie escapes me.
How can you be sure my refusal to agree with your claim a symptom of my ignorance and not yours?

Mike Cl

Quote from: TomFoolery on May 22, 2015, 11:29:43 AM
What do you mean only a matter of time? They've had plenty of scandals, including disowning family members for getting pregnant out of wedlock, publicly stating transsexuals use bathrooms to molest children (irony much?), and deleting photos of homosexual and interracial couples from their page after they openly invited people to post photos of married people kissing on Facebook. Somehow the brain dead of America are happy to overlook the fact that the Duggars belong to a cult that oppresses women, hates education, and proudly judge people who aren't their brand of Christians.

How it is that many people who watch the show have deluded themselves into imagining the Duggars are some modern-day Little House on the Prairie escapes me.
I am equally puzzled by the 'reality' show concept.  These shows are not reality in any sense of the word.  They are all contrived to the max!  They should really be called fantasy shows.  Nothing real here folks, just move along.  The Duck Dynasty is another mystery to me.  The closest I can get to enjoying any reality show is Pawn Stars and American Pickers. 
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Mermaid

Quote from: TomFoolery on May 22, 2015, 11:29:43 AM
What do you mean only a matter of time? They've had plenty of scandals, including disowning family members for getting pregnant out of wedlock, publicly stating transsexuals use bathrooms to molest children (irony much?), and deleting photos of homosexual and interracial couples from their page after they openly invited people to post photos of married people kissing on Facebook. Somehow the brain dead of America are happy to overlook the fact that the Duggars belong to a cult that oppresses women, hates education, and proudly judge people who aren't their brand of Christians.

How it is that many people who watch the show have deluded themselves into imagining the Duggars are some modern-day Little House on the Prairie escapes me.
I knew they were bigots, I was just waiting for the tables to be turned on them and their hypocrisy exposed.
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

Gerard

People who pontificate about sexual things a lot, always make me think that the way too big role, sex has in their "moral universe", may have morbid origins. This of course being one of the many prime examples.

Gerard

TomFoolery

Quote from: Mermaid on May 22, 2015, 05:11:35 PM
I knew they were bigots, I was just waiting for the tables to be turned on them and their hypocrisy exposed.

That's just it though: I feel like all of their hypocrisy and hate campaigns have been on blast for years and people have cheerfully accepted it. Like, oh look at those crazy Duggars with their large family and wholesome values. No one wanted to look too deeply beyond the surface because... why bother?

I'll be honest, when news of this broke yesterday, my initial thought wasn't that he had molested children: it was more along the lines that he had acted like a normal teenage boy and fooled around consensually with a girl and his parents grossly overreacted and called it sexual abuse.

Now that more information has come out, and it has become painfully apparent that he had in fact molested girls, well, I can say I'm not surprised. Teenagers will explore their sexuality, but when you do nothing but tell them that sex is gross, their bodies are sinful, don't allow them privacy and constantly barrage them with messages about the immorality of lust and call everything a perversion, you're more likely going to push them into exploring their sexuality in worse ways. A bit like Catholic priests and young boys.

I'm not saying I condone or accept the behavior, but I sort of understand how it eventually happened. Moreover, it makes you wonder about their other kids.

I know they sent one of their boys away to that crazy right-wing military camp for boys when he became "too rebellious," which among those circles is anything from worshipping Satan to listening to non-gospel music.
How can you be sure my refusal to agree with your claim a symptom of my ignorance and not yours?

Mermaid

Those were my first thoughts, too, TomFoolery. Then my second thought was that he molested boys. Being such a homophobe, it would stand to reason. My only surprise was that he molested girls.
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Mike Cl

Quote from: Mermaid on May 22, 2015, 06:37:49 PM
Those were my first thoughts, too, TomFoolery. Then my second thought was that he molested boys. Being such a homophobe, it would stand to reason. My only surprise was that he molested girls.
My first thoughts, too.  But who is to say that he did not (and maybe still does) molest both sexes?  These sicko's can just about rationalize anything in their sicko minds.
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Dreamer

Quote from: trdsf on May 21, 2015, 11:54:43 PM
If he were really repentant he wouldn't have waited for the statute of limitations to expire.  Another self-serving hypocrite... no shocker there.

When it was reported to the police, the statute of limitations had not passed.

While it's blatant hypocricy, the family did the best they could, imo.  They got counseling for those involved.  I just hope they continue counseling now.  The family didn't bury their heads in the sand--they didn't handle it perfectly, but I think they did really good considering how the expected response would have been denial, repression, refusal to believe...

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Mike Cl

Quote from: Dreamer on May 22, 2015, 08:40:37 PM
When it was reported to the police, the statute of limitations had not passed.

While it's blatant hypocricy, the family did the best they could, imo.  They got counseling for those involved.  I just hope they continue counseling now.  The family didn't bury their heads in the sand--they didn't handle it perfectly, but I think they did really good considering how the expected response would have been denial, repression, refusal to believe...
Then he must be a really nice guy!  And the family seems to be a regular Beaver clan!  And by now I'm sure god must have forgiven them--oh, for sure!
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?