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Ego and the need for Religion

Started by Givemeareason, May 15, 2015, 03:33:13 PM

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Givemeareason

Quote from: SGOS on May 16, 2015, 06:43:07 AM
Western Christians make a big deal about their humility.  They flaunt it, compare theirs with others, pretend to be loaded with the stuff.  They tell each other they are better than the others who do not have humility.  They do this while they judge others, discriminate, an behave like assholes to those they see as inferior.  Christian humility is a lie that has become a meme, like the belief that "Republicans are good money managers." 

Mostly it's Christians who buy it.  It's an illusion.  Instead of being humble, they puff themselves up like the judgmental egocentric god they created and to which they ascribe all the most abhorrent personality traits that they refuse to see in themselves, and then they proceed to worship this icon of the worst in human behavior.

You ego is part of you and not what others tell you.  If you feel good about yourself you will feel self confident and ready to face the world head on.
I am a Hard Athiest.  I am thought provoking inwardly and outwardly.  I am a nonconforming freethinker.

Givemeareason

Quote from: the_antithesis on May 16, 2015, 09:59:01 AM
I fail to see this as anything but intentional trolling.

Good day.

I don't know why you think that.  This thread is certainly as good or better than some of the "I hate religion" threads I have seen here.
I am a Hard Athiest.  I am thought provoking inwardly and outwardly.  I am a nonconforming freethinker.

SGOS

Quote from: Givemeareason on May 16, 2015, 10:12:42 AM
You ego is part of you and not what others tell you.  If you feel good about yourself you will feel self confident and ready to face the world head on.

Jesus Christ!  You sound like a God damned fortune cookie. 

Givemeareason

Quote from: SGOS on May 16, 2015, 10:17:14 AM
Jesus Christ!  You sound like a God damned fortune cookie.

I don't tell fortunes.  I just wait and see what happens.
I am a Hard Athiest.  I am thought provoking inwardly and outwardly.  I am a nonconforming freethinker.

Givemeareason

Quote from: Aupmanyav on May 16, 2015, 01:35:48 AM
I am a strong atheist but Eastern thought, Hinduism and Buddhism, have destroyed my ego. Hinduism says I am an illusion, Buddhism says I have no 'atta' (substance) and am only the sum of conditions (skandhas). Otherwise I might have had a big ego. :D


You ego is part of you and not what others tell you.  If you feel good about yourself you will feel self confident and ready to face the world head on.
I am a Hard Athiest.  I am thought provoking inwardly and outwardly.  I am a nonconforming freethinker.

Givemeareason

Quote from: SGOS on May 16, 2015, 10:17:14 AM
Jesus Christ!  You sound like a God damned fortune cookie.

I see what you are saying now.  Directing that at you, it did sound like something out of a fortune cookie.  Sorry, did  it mean to direct that at you.
I am a Hard Athiest.  I am thought provoking inwardly and outwardly.  I am a nonconforming freethinker.

Mike Cl

Quote from: Givemeareason on May 16, 2015, 12:42:31 PM
I see what you are saying now.  Directing that at you, it did sound like something out of a fortune cookie.  Sorry, did  it mean to direct that at you.
Are you always drunk?  Or are your brain cells just in a constant state of pickled????
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Givemeareason

Quote from: Mike Cl on May 16, 2015, 01:31:55 PM
Are you always drunk?  Or are your brain cells just in a constant state of pickled????

You know how us old people are.  Every time I have to run for the bathroom I forget where I was at and have to start all over again.  Your turn is coming.
I am a Hard Athiest.  I am thought provoking inwardly and outwardly.  I am a nonconforming freethinker.

Mike Cl

Quote from: Givemeareason on May 16, 2015, 02:04:25 PM
You know how us old people are.  Every time I have to run for the bathroom I forget where I was at and have to start all over again.  Your turn is coming.
My turn?  I'm just as old as you are.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Givemeareason

Quote from: Mike Cl on May 16, 2015, 02:06:43 PM
My turn?  I'm just as old as you are.

So how did you get this without learning anything?
I am a Hard Athiest.  I am thought provoking inwardly and outwardly.  I am a nonconforming freethinker.

Mike Cl

Quote from: Givemeareason on May 16, 2015, 02:10:26 PM
So how did you get this without learning anything?
Giveme, giveme, giveme.................!  If you are going to throw barbs around, the least you can do is to learn to do it right.  Pay attention, now.

You said "So how did you get this without learning anything?"  ????What?  Being old isn't something you 'get'--it is something you are and are becoming--older and older.  So, this is what you should have said--"How did you get to be so old and not learn anything?"  And then I would have understood you insulted me and not you.  And then I could have become indignant and told you to fuck off.  Instead I just chuckled  to myself and thought--Ahhh, good ole Giveme.......he's at it again.   

So, when you want to insult me or throw something back in my face, LMK and I'll give you a hand.  Okay????
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

SkyChief

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Quote from: Givemeareason on May 15, 2015, 05:15:34 PM
But we all want to recruit christians as athiests?  They like to recruit us.  Dwelling on all the reasons we hate Christianity will not help that cause. So why don't we first try to understand why they are christian?

First, Atheists don't want to 'recruit' anyone.  We are not an organised like the various churches are. We just don't want religious bullshit rammed down our throats.

Second, What makes you think atheist hate xtians? Im sure some do, but that's not what being atheist is about.

That's the beauty of atheism.... we really don't have a mission or membership goals.. We don't need to indoctrinate children into atheism, or frighten them with scary stories of eternal torture in the fiery pits of hell.

Studies have shown that folks are abandoning christianity in droves because they realize what a crock religion is.  At some point in the future, the number of secular/atheist people will outnumber the xtians (in the US, anyway).  Its just a matter of time.

People (especially the millenials) have indicated they have no need for religion . 






"A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be."    - Albert Einstein

Givemeareason

Quote from: Mike Cl on May 16, 2015, 02:51:43 PM
Giveme, giveme, giveme.................!  If you are going to throw barbs around, the least you can do is to learn to do it right.  Pay attention, now.

You said "So how did you get this without learning anything?"  ????What?  Being old isn't something you 'get'--it is something you are and are becoming--older and older.  So, this is what you should have said--"How did you get to be so old and not learn anything?"  And then I would have understood you insulted me and not you.  And then I could have become indignant and told you to fuck off.  Instead I just chuckled  to myself and thought--Ahhh, good ole Giveme.......he's at it again.   

So, when you want to insult me or throw something back in my face, LMK and I'll give you a hand.  Okay????

Yes, I see I left out a word.  You see my mind is faster than my fingers and sometimes they just leave words out.  Looks like you are at the other end of the spectrum.  Your fingers look faster than your mind.
I am a Hard Athiest.  I am thought provoking inwardly and outwardly.  I am a nonconforming freethinker.

Givemeareason

Quote from: SkyChief on May 16, 2015, 02:54:09 PM
First, Atheists don't want to 'recruit' anyone.  We are not an organised like the various churches are. We just don't want religious bullshit rammed down our throats.

Second, What makes you think atheist hate xtians? Im sure some do, but that's not what being atheist is about.

That's the beauty of atheism.... we really don't have a mission or membership goals.. We don't need to indoctrinate children into atheism, or frighten them with scary stories of eternal torture in the fiery pits of hell.

Studies have shown that folks are abandoning christianity in droves because they realize what a crock religion is.  At some point in the future, the number of secular/atheist people will outnumber the xtians (in the US, anyway).  Its just a matter of time.

People (especially the millenials) have indicated they have no need for religion .

I distinctly remember people saying they wanted to eliminate religion.  Did they want to recruit the Christians or kill them?
I am a Hard Athiest.  I am thought provoking inwardly and outwardly.  I am a nonconforming freethinker.

Mike Cl

Quote from: Givemeareason on May 16, 2015, 03:08:33 PM
Yes, I see I left out a word.  You see my mind is faster than my fingers and sometimes they just leave words out.  Looks like you are at the other end of the spectrum.  Your fingers look faster than your mind.
There you go again!  Words, Giveme, matter.  You don't seem to be able to grasp that.  Your mind is faster then your fingers and sometimes 'they' just leave words out????  What the hell does that mean?  Who is the 'they' in your mind?  Maybe you should invite two or three of them out of your mind???  So, if somebody asks you--'are you all there?', are they asking if all of your personalities are present?  Is that what drives you to drink--all those 'they's' in your head???  Damn, you must have a hell of a time going to sleep!
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?