The connection between Atheism and religion

[Givemeareason]

That's like supporting a terrorist because they have a good cause while being evil.  Any good the religion does can be done without religion, but only religion can do good and make the world a living hell like objecting to birth control and never questioning authority.  :fU: Solitary

That has no comparison to terrorism at all.  Terrorism is always based on extreme and radical ideas.  Religion by itself is most certainly not.  Anyone can distort anything.  If becoming atheist is from thinking rationally then we also should be leaving our black and white views behind as well.

[Mike Cl]

That has no comparison to terrorism at all.  Terrorism is always based on extreme and radical ideas.  Religion by itself is most certainly not.  Anyone can distort anything.  If becoming atheist is from thinking rationally then we also should be leaving our black and white views behind as well.

There you go again, Givemeareason (oh, the irony of that name) not giving any reasons or ideas or data to support your 'no comparison' statement.  Why is it no comparison?  And is terrorism always based on extreme and radical ideas?  Bullshit.  The rebels in the US Civil war used terror all the time--the rebel yell was for that, the creation of terror.  Terror on the battlefield or for political gain has been used from before bibical times.  God uses terror all the time in the bible.  So, your claim is just full of shit.  Can you back up any of your claim?????  Of course not, for you don't discuss things or give reasons for your thinking--just change the subject or ignore it. 

[Mr.Obvious]

Thank you for suggesting that.  I do need an identity.  Btw, I love your name. :-)

Thanks

[Givemeareason]

There you go again, Givemeareason (oh, the irony of that name) not giving any reasons or ideas or data to support your 'no comparison' statement.  Why is it no comparison?  And is terrorism always based on extreme and radical ideas?  Bullshit.  The rebels in the US Civil war used terror all the time--the rebel yell was for that, the creation of terror.  Terror on the battlefield or for political gain has been used from before bibical times.  God uses terror all the time in the bible.  So, your claim is just full of shit.  Can you back up any of your claim?????  Of course not, for you don't discuss things or give reasons for your thinking--just change the subject or ignore it.

When I say "Give me a reason" I am trying to suggest that I am a skeptic.  I am not providing reasons but rather asking for them.  I do appreciate your attempts in trying to get to know me though and I will be happy to interject my ideas anywhere they might be appropriate.  Do you really think I am that bad at expressing myself or are you just struggling to understand me?

[PickelledEggs]

Yes, I do support it.  As stupid as it is.

So does this mean you support stupidity? or things that breed stupidity?

[Mike Cl]

When I say "Give me a reason" I am trying to suggest that I am a skeptic.  I am not providing reasons but rather asking for them.  I do appreciate your attempts in trying to get to know me though and I will be happy to interject my ideas anywhere they might be appropriate.  Do you really think I am that bad at expressing myself or are you just struggling to understand me?

How can one get to understand vapor?  I'm not struggling, just trying to call you on your blowinginthewind.  So far, there is nothing to understand.  Well, except how one could possibly be so vapid.

[Solitary]

That has no comparison to terrorism at all.  Terrorism is always based on extreme and radical ideas.  Religion by itself is most certainly not.  Anyone can distort anything.  If becoming atheist is from thinking rationally then we also should be leaving our black and white views behind as well.

Your only reason to be here is to disrupt the forum, in other words you are a troll. The terrorist are not  distorting their religion they are basing what they are doing on the very foundation of the Judeo-Christian, Islamic tradition with the Old Testament which is as radical and extreme ideas as one can get. You are just being and ass, and that includes the hole. There is more to being an atheist besides logic and sound and critical thinking that is done best by psychopaths, like being an authentic human being with the higher forms of feelings and emotions like love. Being an atheist isn't about  black and white thinking or views anymore than seeing actual black and white values are. You are giving religious views the same credence as atheism like fairy tales and disbelief in them deserves scorn because they are so delightful. That is so childish and silly from an adult to assume. You need to grow up! Solitary

[Givemeareason]

How can one get to understand vapor?  I'm not struggling, just trying to call you on your blowinginthewind.  So far, there is nothing to understand.  Well, except how one could possibly be so vapid.

Well, Mike, I speak in similar ways in real life as well.  The only thing lacking here is I am unable to convey my emotions very well.  I have never been told that my ideas are vapid.  I am generally pretty well accepted out here and respected as well.  I also try to follow the Golden Rule just as you do as it is a very logical and empathetic way to behave.  I am not sure why you find me so frustrating.

[Givemeareason]

Your only reason to be here is to disrupt the forum, in other words you are a troll. The terrorist are not  distorting their religion they are basing what they are doing on the very foundation of the Judeo-Christian, Islamic tradition with the Old Testament which is as radical and extreme ideas as one can get. You are just being and ass, and that includes the hole. There is more to being an atheist besides logic and sound and critical thinking that is done best by psychopaths, like being an authentic human being with the higher forms of feelings and emotions like love. Being an atheist isn't about  black and white thinking or views anymore than seeing actual black and white values are. You are giving religious views the same credence as atheism like fairy tales and disbelief in them deserves scorn because they are so delightful. That is so childish and silly from an adult to assume. You need to grow up! Solitary

It is pretty apparent you are viewing me with scorn.  You see me as a disgrace to atheism and acting childishly.  I am aghast that someone who has presumably made the transition to atheism can hold such views.  Are you revealing yourself as being one of the people who complained about me.  Are you trying to entrap me into some stupid reaction that would get me banned from the board.  I have no idea who you are but I have certainly encountered such treacherous behavior in real life before.  So please tell me how you came to these conclusions or would that be too disruptive?

[Mike Cl]

It is pretty apparent you are viewing me with scorn.  You see me as a disgrace to atheism and acting childishly.  I am aghast that someone who has presumably made the transition to atheism can hold such views.  Are you revealing yourself as being one of the people who complained about me.  Are you trying to entrap me into some stupid reaction that would get me banned from the board.  I have no idea who you are but I have certainly encountered such treacherous behavior in real life before.  So please tell me how you came to these conclusions or would that be too disruptive?

Go back and read all of my comments directed toward you.  Then you will have an idea of why so many on this board find you not just frustrating, not just vapid, but downright incoherent.

[Givemeareason]

Go back and read all of my comments directed toward you.  Then you will have an idea of why so many on this board find you not just frustrating, not just vapid, but downright incoherent.

Are you sure I am incoherent or am I just not conforming?

[Mike Cl]

 

Are you sure I am incoherent or am I just not conforming?

I don't stutter--can you not read???!!!!

[Solitary]

It is pretty apparent you are viewing me with scorn.  You see me as a disgrace to atheism and acting childishly.  I am aghast that someone who has presumably made the transition to atheism can hold such views.  Are you revealing yourself as being one of the people who complained about me.  Are you trying to entrap me into some stupid reaction that would get me banned from the board.  I have no idea who you are but I have certainly encountered such treacherous behavior in real life before.  So please tell me how you came to these conclusions or would that be too disruptive?

I made the transition from no belief to atheism, no belief, in superstition when I was six years old. You are really fucking paranoid because I never dis report you---feeling guilty? I came to these conclusions by you responding or not responding like a troll that I have seen at forums for the last thirty years.

[Aupmanyav]

"The problem with writing .. my urine or yours?"
http://www.comedy-lounge.com/jokes/BarryReligion.htm

Now I understand that it was at comedy-lounge, but it is utter foolishness; and I think such jokes should not be made. I am a Hindu and a strong atheist. Hindus do consider 'pancha-gavyas' as sacred (milk, curd, butter, cow-urine, cow-dung). Cow-dung, of course, is a useful item with us, either used as fuel or in plastering adobe dwellings. But no God asks us to drink cow-urine. It is a later addition and is sometimes used in re-conversion of people from other religions back to Hinduism, a sort of punishment and acceptance of the fault of moving away from Hinduism. But, then, rules about what one is allowed to say differ from one country to another, many a times leading to unpleasant situations (Charles Hebdo). In India this kind of flaming is not allowed.

I had my beautiful avatara. I do not know why it does not show today. I would try to get it back.

[Mike Cl]

Now I understand that it was at comedy-lounge, but it is utter foolishness; and I think such jokes should not be made. I am a Hindu and a strong atheist. Hindus do consider 'pancha-gavyas' as sacred (milk, curd, butter, cow-urine, cow-dung). Cow-dung, of course, is a useful item with us, either used as fuel or in plastering adobe dwellings. But no God asks us to drink cow-urine. It is a later addition and is sometimes used in re-conversion of people from other religions back to Hinduism, a sort of punishment and acceptance of the fault of moving away from Hinduism. But, then, rules about what one is allowed to say differ from one country to another, many a times leading to unpleasant situations (Charles Hebdo). In India this kind of flaming is not allowed.

I had my beautiful avatara. I do not know why it does not show today. I would try to get it back.

Aupmanyav, could you help lift the veil of my ignorance?  How can one be a Hindu and an atheist at the same time????