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Started by stromboli, April 24, 2015, 06:59:49 PM

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stromboli

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/04/24/do-strong-religious-beliefs-stifle-innovation/

QuoteCountries that are intensely religious are typically less innovative than those that aren’t, according to a new paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research.

The study, titled “Forbidden Fruits: The Political Economy of Science, Religion, and Growth,” compares religious beliefs and belief in God with scientific innovation as measured by issuance of patents.

“In both international and cross-state U.S. data, there is a significant and robust negative relationship between religiosity and patents per capita,” according to authors Roland Bénabou, a Princeton University economist, and Davide Ticchi and Andrea Vindigni, both economists at Italy’s IMT Institute for Advanced Studies Lucca.

The relationship is apparent when plotting the percent of the population that describes itself as religious against a population-controlled measure of patent applications filed by a country’s residents.



The relationship broadly holds up when the authors make adjustments for differences in gross domestic product, rates of higher education, population and other variables. So it’s not simply a matter of more religious countries being poorer or having fewer resources, Mr. Bénabou said in an interview.

“We’re not making strong claims as to what is causing what,” he said. “The pattern is there and people can offer their own explanation to the pattern.”

The paper also delves into the types of political and scientific regimes that result from religious conviction, ranging from a Western European model with relatively unimpeded scientific progress and a declining role for the Church to a theocratic model with a political class closely allied to religious leaders who are resistant to scientific discoveries. Both feature high taxes, though spending is channeled toward different ends.

In between is the so-called American model, where scientific progress is usually unimpeded, religious beliefs are stable, the Church more likely to adapt (than resist or simply fade away) and taxes are lower. But in America, the strongly religious rich and poor have crossed class boundaries to form political alliances that seeks to block ideas conflicting with their beliefs.

“Inequality can thus be harmful to knowledge and growth, by inducing obscurantist, anti-science attitudes and policies,” the authors said. As examples, they cite restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research under President George W. Bush and tax breaks for the expansion of the Creation Museum in Kentucky.

Messrs. Bénabou, Ticchi and Vindigni are careful to note that their paper isn’t insisting that religion impedes economic growth or economic growth impedes religion.

“We focus on one key determinant of growthâ€"science and innovationâ€"but religion also ties into many others: general literacy, thrift, social norms, civil peace or strife, etc.,” the paper said. “Moreover, our model highlights how conflicts between new scientific knowledge and prevailing religious beliefs can lead not only to repression of the former or erosion of the latter, but also to their coexistence.”

One last note: The authors focus on traditional religion but also suggest that any overly rigid ideology can impede science. As an example, they cite the Soviet Union from the 1930s through the 1960s, when “Inquisition-like methods (forced denunciations, imprisonments, executions) were used to repress ‘bourgeois’ scientific knowledge and methodology in evolutionary biology and agronomy, with adverse spillovers onto many other areas.”

Another example of an article that illustrates what I think most here already believe. Patents and patent applications are a fairly good bellwether of not just innovation but the freedom to express innovation in real terms, by applying it directly to new ideas and new products. Where the development of new ideas is suppressed/mocked/considered against the norm, real progress is stifled. Yes, we can blame religion for not having any flying cars.

Mike Cl

Quote from: stromboli on April 24, 2015, 06:59:49 PM
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/04/24/do-strong-religious-beliefs-stifle-innovation/

Another example of an article that illustrates what I think most here already believe. Patents and patent applications are a fairly good bellwether of not just innovation but the freedom to express innovation in real terms, by applying it directly to new ideas and new products. Where the development of new ideas is suppressed/mocked/considered against the norm, real progress is stifled. Yes, we can blame religion for not having any flying cars.
This makes a great deal of sense to me.  For christians the bible is supposed to be the word of god--complete and full as it stands.  Nothing needs to be added, so why think outside the box?  God said it was already good.  Can't make it any gooder than that---right??  Why would they want to make it better by inventing anything?  Not much of a reason, I guess. 
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

dtq123

Quote from: Mike Cl on April 25, 2015, 12:01:31 AM
Not much of a reason, I guess.
Why I don't do anything with my life
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Solitary

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SmOff! Come on! Isn't inventing an imaginary Magic Man in the sky that supplies all your need enough??? What have inventors done!!!With their atomic bombs, effective weapons of mass destruction, polluting machines, birth control, abortion pills, reassignment surgery for weirdo's  like Bruce Genderbender, pharmaceuticals that can make addicts and make people happy so they go to hell without God. Dumb athiests!!!!! Sarah     :biggrin2: :lol: :rotflmao:
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

Aroura33

Well yea, why would they be innovative in modern times?  They have what they need to survive and play nowadays, from the actual innovative people, and religion gives them all the answers ready made.  No need to think outside the box.
"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory.  LLAP"
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Shiranu

I mean... nearly all the top countries fall in the "middle-of-the-road" to "religious" category, and about 3/4ths of the countries in the bottom right fall under the category of "had their government overthrown by the United States/Russia in the last 50 years"...

Really a stretch there to say that religion is the primary factor, since there are just as many religious countries at the top as there are irreligious...
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Solitary

There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.