Kirk Cameron: Pagans Stole Christmas From Christians

Started by stromboli, November 13, 2014, 02:00:48 PM

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stromboli

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/12/kirk-cameron-christmas_n_6149592.html?cps=gravity

QuoteKirk Cameron wants people to know that many have Christmas all wrong. It's not a Christian holiday with pagan origins, but a Christian creation through and through.

In his new film, "Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas," the former "Growing Pains" star and popular evangelical figure told the Christian Post he's taking aim at all the people "who really want to put a big wet blanket on the celebration."

"It starts this time of year. You have people who want to pull down nativity scenes, you have lawsuits showing up in schools that can't have Christmas performances ... it has to be winter break or holiday break or sparkle season ... they want to take that out of Christmas so they don't offend people who hate Christmas. And then we have a new group who are telling us, convincingly, that Christmas is actually a celebration of paganism."
The Bible doesn't specify the date of Jesus' birth. Some scholars believe it was in the spring, while others have used the clues in the Bible to estimate an autumn birth. However, many modern Christmas traditions, including the Dec. 25 date and a celebration based around a tree, began as pagan celebrations of winter, such as Yule and Saturnalia.

Even the Christian Post notes on a separate page that Pope Gregory I once wrote to his missionary in England not to block traditional pagan festivals, instructing him instead to "adapt them to the rites of the Church, only changing the reason of them from a heathen to a Christian impulse."

Cameron believes they all have it wrong, and his film attempts to derail arguments that some Christmas traditions have pagan roots.

"We don't know this stuff, we kinda drink the Kool-Aid and believe pagans when they tell us they have ownership of these things," Cameron was quoted as saying.

Read the full interview at The Christian Post.

Over the summer, Cameron told The Blaze that atheists wouldn't be too happy with his new film.

“I assume they’re going to get frustrated to see some of their best arguments deflated by this movie, because we take on some of the most commonly parroted myths about the origins of Christmas,” he was quoted as saying.

"Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas" opens on Friday.

If we could turn stupid into fuel, Kirk Cameron could power the world for the next 1,000 years.

aitm

And it is very important for the world to know that HE is saving it. No ego there eh?
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

stromboli

Quote from: aitm on November 13, 2014, 03:14:45 PM
And it is very important for the world to know that HE is saving it. No ego there eh?

Now if we can just convince him to crucify himself to save Easter.....

Munch

When stupid comes from unknown people its fine, because they are nobodies who haven't ever starred in popular media and whos names are known.

When its a celebrity, having that level of stupid is dangerous, since it can spread like a virus making other people stupid.

how many Christians do you think read what he said, and now think its obviously correct? I mean as people who believe in what they do its not much of a stretch.

Someone needs to educate Kirk about Saturnalia, and where the real origins of Christmas came from.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Drummer Guy

I don't find it sad that Kirk is so over the top delusional.  I find it sad that thousands of people are gonna eat this up and assume he's right.

Jason78

Winner of WitchSabrinas Best Advice Award 2012


We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real
tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. -Plato

Solitary

 :wtff: I knew he was an idiot, but now he is encephalitic. Did he ever actually read a history book about the pagans, they were around thousands of years before Christians.  :wall:
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

stromboli

Wait- it's brilliant! Kirk Cameron is using the media to get free publicity for his movie! By making lame comments!

Munch

Quote from: Solitary on November 13, 2014, 06:39:15 PM
:wtff: I knew he was an idiot, but now he is encephalitic. Did he ever actually read a history book about the pagans, they were around thousands of years before Christians.  :wall:

Think of it this way, he goes under the evangelical handle, so he probably believes everything christianity tells him, even that the world is only a few thousand years old and Christianity is the only true religion, all others are just stories made up by people to mock christianity.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

kilodelta

Too late Kirk. I have officially cancelled Christmas and instituted a law that makes it illegal to call it anything but Xmas. The "x" is for extreme and no longer a mass. There is no way he can bring it back... just like when god sends people to hell. Mwahahahahhahahaha!
Faith: pretending to know things you don't know

stromboli

Somebody seriously needs to bitch slap Cameron-just to get his attention- and point out that Winter Solstice celebrations have been going on since the Babylonians, and probably before that.  I'm beginning to wonder if this twit can dress himself.

Solitary

There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

The Skeletal Atheist

Why do people always think we're out to destroy Christmas? I celebrate Christmas like, too. They'd have a point to say that we commercialized the holiday and took Jesus away from the spot light, but they are the ones who did that.
Some people need to be beaten with a smart stick.

Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid!

Kein Mitlied F�r Die Mehrheit!

stromboli

Bill O'Reilly has to have something to bitch about.

Gawdzilla Sama

We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers