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Started by Agramon, June 21, 2013, 02:55:17 AM

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Hydra009

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Quote from: Blackleaf on April 23, 2025, 11:23:46 AMI'm basically a sneak archer


Ooof, the inevitable class.  Though I admit, it was fun sniping wandering villagers and guards in Skyrim.  I shot out plenty of watchful eyes.  ^_^

QuoteI'll probably join the Fighters Guild, Mages Guild, and Thieves Guild, but not the Dark Brotherhood.
I don't recall joining the Dark Brotherhood in Oblivion, either.  I might not have had the time to murder anyone with all the Oblivion gate chaos and the gladiatorial arena taking most of my time.  I actually really loved being a gladiator there.  Though the AI was a mess and team fights were chaotic as hell.

QuoteI never got around to Nights of the Nine either.
I heard that Sheogorath's Daedric realm is actually really fun and memorable, too.  :(

Oh, I do remember one quest I loved in Oblivion!  Peryite's shrine gives you a quest for a pretty okay Oblivion gate but you get the Spell Breaker shield (30% chance to reflect incoming spells) and I remember being so happy to get it!  On most of my playthroughs, but especially Oblivion, my character is a warrior geared to have the advantage against mages (the class that warriors are weakest against).  "Oh what's that, you're casting a spell?  Well, I cast MACE TO THE FACE!!!"

Hydra009


drunkenshoe

Airborne Kingdom is pretty neat. I was going good and then crashed in the Extreme cold map. It's so cute too.
"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 24, 2025, 02:02:08 AMAirborne Kingdom is pretty neat. I was going good and then crashed in the Extreme cold map. It's so cute too.
Do you have to yell "GERONIMO!!!" to start the game?
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

drunkenshoe

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on April 24, 2025, 04:07:53 PMDo you have to yell "GERONIMO!!!" to start the game?

I didn't get it.
"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

Hydra009

#4250
Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 25, 2025, 03:17:46 AMI didn't get it.
If I'm not mistaken, Gawdzilla is doing a play on words - airborne in the sense of being high up and also in the sense of the US military air assault specialization.  And Geronimo was a famous 19th century Native American and US paratroopers would show their courage by yelling "Geronimo!" while jumping out of an airplane, kind of like "Kobe!" today while throwing an object at an intended location.  Oh my god, it's exactly like slang today...*grimaces*

drunkenshoe

Quote from: Hydra009 on April 25, 2025, 03:44:26 AMIf I'm not mistaken, Gawdzilla is doing a play on words - airborne in the sense of being high up and also in the sense of the US military air assault specialization.  And Geronimo was a famous 19th century Native American and US paratroopers would show their courage by yelling "Geronimo!" while jumping out of an airplane, kind of like "Kobe!" today while throwing an object at an intended location.  Oh my god, it's exactly like slang today...*grimaces*

LOL. Of course I know Geronimo, but I wuoldn't be able to connect it with the military stuff in a million years.
"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

Blackleaf

I will say, one thing I miss from Skyrim when playing Oblivion Remastered is its witness system. In Skyrim, if you commit a crime, someone sees you, but you kill them before they tell a guard, then your bounty goes away. In Oblivion, your crime is immediately known to every guard in Cyrodiil.

I'm not playing a murderous character (right now), but I did enter what was very obviously a trap. Decided I wasn't going to just walk up to the guy and try to talk him down, but to use the element of surprise instead. I kill the bad guy, step outside and...



How the fuck!?
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 25, 2025, 04:12:26 AMLOL. Of course I know Geronimo, but I wuoldn't be able to connect it with the military stuff in a million years.
I was enthralled by "Victory At Sea" when I was in the second grade. (Waves to the other end of the spectrum.)
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Hydra009

#4254
Quote from: Blackleaf on April 25, 2025, 09:56:00 AMI will say, one thing I miss from Skyrim when playing Oblivion Remastered is its witness system. In Skyrim, if you commit a crime, someone sees you, but you kill them before they tell a guard, then your bounty goes away.
That's why I leave that snitchin' horse in the stables.

QuoteIn Oblivion, your crime is immediately known to every guard in Cyrodiil.
Yep.  Video game logic.  We'll assume they have special scrying balls or something.  It was almost as bad in Morrowind - several times, I wiped out bandits or shopkeeps secretly in league with the Sixth House and I moused over their stuff and it would be considered a crime to take it.  And Morrowind logic was even weirder because let's say you steal a clay pot from someone.  Every time you try to sell them any clay pot from that point on, they consider it stolen.  And heaven help you if you're holding skooma, moon sugar, raw ebony, or ash statues.  Immediate refusal to do business.  Granted you can just drop it on the floor, conduct your business, then pick it back up, but it's a pain.

QuoteI'm not playing a murderous character (right now), but I did enter what was very obviously a trap. Decided I wasn't going to just walk up to the guy and try to talk him down, but to use the element of surprise instead. I kill the bad guy, step outside and...



How the fuck!?
Did you pre-emptively attack them?  Because that's a crime.  Even if they're a bad guy, they still have to attack you first for it to be considered self-defense.

I think they just have to aggro on you for you to be in the clear on a legal and moral level, but I let them have the first hit just in case, and also for roleplay reasons.  My knightly redguard is very big on honor and courtesy and I assume he takes a defensive stance at first to size up his opponent's capabilities before unleashing righteous retribution on them.  If the Elder Scrolls ever get an ability where you can magically deal damage to an enemy based on the damage they've dealt you, he'd be first in line to get it.

I basically make two characters almost every time I play an Elder Scrolls game - a noble and charismatic redguard (a bandit-killer in the field, but courteous and respectful in the city - endurance and personality maxed out - extremely loyal to the Empire - never murders or steals ever) and a shadowscale argonian (nimble and cunning, favoring illusion and ambush, more self-interested and less crime-averse, loyal only to the Hist/Argonians and the Dark Brotherhood - will absolutely murder anyone from Grelod the Kind to the Emperor if paid to do so no questions asked.  Sweet mother, sweet mother...)

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 25, 2025, 04:12:26 AMLOL. Of course I know Geronimo, but I wuoldn't be able to connect it with the military stuff in a million years.
In the movie "Top Secret" (Val Kilmer) the paratroops are jumping out of the C-47 and each yells "Geronimo!" as he jumps. EXCEPT for the last in line. He's in full (Hollywood) Indian garb. As he jumps he yells "MEEEEEE!!!"
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Blackleaf

Quote from: Hydra009 on April 25, 2025, 10:44:28 AMThat's why I leave that snitchin' horse in the stables.
Yep.  Video game logic.  We'll assume they have special scrying balls or something.  It was almost as bad in Morrowind - several times, I wiped out bandits or shopkeeps secretly in league with the Sixth House and I moused over their stuff and it would be considered a crime to take it.  And Morrowind logic was even weirder because let's say you steal a clay pot from someone.  Every time you try to sell them any clay pot from that point on, they consider it stolen.  And heaven help you if you're holding skooma, moon sugar, raw ebony, or ash statues.  Immediate refusal to do business.  Granted you can just drop it on the floor, conduct your business, then pick it back up, but it's a pain.
Did you pre-emptively attack them?  Because that's a crime.  Even if they're a bad guy, they still have to attack you first for it to be considered self-defense.

I think they just have to aggro on you for you to be in the clear on a legal and moral level, but I let them have the first hit just in case, and also for roleplay reasons.  My knightly redguard is very big on honor and courtesy and I assume he takes a defensive stance at first to size up his opponent's capabilities before unleashing righteous retribution on them.  If the Elder Scrolls ever get an ability where you can magically deal damage to an enemy based on the damage they've dealt you, he'd be first in line to get it.

I basically make two characters almost every time I play an Elder Scrolls game - a noble and charismatic redguard (a bandit-killer in the field, but courteous and respectful in the city - endurance and personality maxed out - extremely loyal to the Empire - never murders or steals ever) and a shadowscale argonian (nimble and cunning, favoring illusion and ambush, more self-interested and less crime-averse, loyal only to the Hist/Argonians and the Dark Brotherhood - will absolutely murder anyone from Grelod the Kind to the Emperor if paid to do so no questions asked.  Sweet mother, sweet mother...)

I mean, the guy was robbing a grave. After I walked into the tomb, the way out was locked. The guy brought a friend in heavy armor. Very clearly, their intention was to kill me and stuff me in the grave they dug up. Plus, since they were the only ones there, and I killed them both, how the fuck did the guards know?

I've done Dark Brotherhood playthroughs before, and I remember the omniscient guards being an extreme pain in the fanny with that quest line.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Blackleaf on April 25, 2025, 12:31:08 PMPlus, since they were the only ones there, and I killed them both, how the fuck did the guards know?
Every time I robbed a grave I had a look-out stationed to call out if the fuzz showed up.

Wasn't like that in the real world. I was not about to let my old man take that Rolex to the great beyond.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Mr.Obvious

Finished the main game of returnal (not act 3). Loved it.
Dead space remake, here i come though.
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