Started by josephpalazzo, August 11, 2014, 07:34:51 AM
Quote from: Munch on August 11, 2014, 02:52:42 PMI think he really did exist, like how Shoko Ashara, Joseph Smith and Marshall Herff Applewhite did, and he had followers write about his godly powers.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on August 11, 2014, 03:01:38 PMCan you cite that? I'd like to look in to that a bit more...
Quote from: Munch on August 11, 2014, 03:08:58 PMWell like say I've not read dawkins book yet so will get to that. I'm more just theorizing, but wouldn't it be funny if you could discover that everything christianity is based on isn't from a divine scripture, but from a cult leader who wasn't even a pearly white diva. It feels like every time a creationist says to a scientist 'you can't prove the universe is more then 6000 years old cause you weren't there!', makes you feel like saying you can't prove jesus was what the bible says he is. Of course I know the irony would be lost on such people.
Quote from: Munch on August 11, 2014, 03:28:15 PMThats the wonderful thing about an analytical approach to things, wanting to find truth in something and questioning everything. Thats how I became an athiest to begin with ^^
Quote from: the_antithesis on August 11, 2014, 03:56:59 PMIf a historical jesus existed, he was probably the Osama Bin Laden of his day.
Quote from: Munch on August 11, 2014, 03:28:15 PMThats the wonderful thing about an analytical approach to things, wanting to find truth in something and questioning everything. Thats how I became an athiest to begin with ^^Your right, it could just have well been a random guy who did a Joseph smith too, we could even put bets on what it was most likely, a man who wanted to become divine in the eyes of others, someone who wanted to make a cult so invented the character, maybe even a system of government who wanted to create there own laws, so put together there own myth to overthrow pre-existing ones like greek or roman.
Quote from: Shiranu on August 11, 2014, 04:47:01 PMMeh, I don't see any reason to believe that there wasn't a Jesus figure at the time; Israel was supposedly full of radicals who were fueled by the Roman occupation and other sorts of political and religious dissidents. He was probably one of the many nut-jobs running around who managed to make it to cult, and then religion, status... or perhaps a combination of several of their stories.Think about how many people today claim to be Jesus reincarnate... you really think 2000 years ago there weren't people who would claim to be God's son and people wouldn't fall for it?
Quote from: Munch on August 11, 2014, 08:06:24 AM
Quote from: Youssuf Ramadan on August 12, 2014, 08:02:05 AMIs it possible that the whole Jesus character was a composite of the best bits of the many Apocalyptic 'messiahs' and preachers that were supposedly around at the time? Strange that there is very little between the beginning of his life and the end, and that even the synoptic gospels have glaring discrepancies while being held by a lot of Xtians to be first-hand accounts.