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Started by Nam, July 28, 2014, 04:20:49 PM

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http://m.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/07/28/fourth-circuit-strikes-down-virginia-ban-on-same-sex-marriage/

QuoteIn a 2-1 decision in Bostic v. Schaefer, a panel of the Fourth Circuit has invalidated Virginia’s ban on same-sex marriage. The majority opinion was written by Judge Henry Floyd (an Obama nominee, but previously a George W. Bush choice for the district court) and joined by Judge Roger Gregory (Clinton nominee). It’s the second post-Windsor appellate court, after the Tenth Circuit, to strike down an exclusion of gay couples from marriage. Judge Paul Niemeyer (George H.W. Bush) dissented, the second appellate court judge to do so since Windsor. The case was argued by Ted Olson, who recently co-authored a book with David Boies about their challenge to Proposition 8.

The Fourth Circuit majority held that the ban violated gay couples’ fundamental right to marry. Specifically, the majority placed heavy reliance on both Windsor and Lawrence v. Texas as establishing the equal validity of gay couples’ intimate and relational choices:

Lawrence and Windsor indicate that the choices that individuals make in the context of same-sex relationships enjoy the same constitutional protection as the choices accompanying opposite-sex relationships. We therefore have no reason to suspect that the Supreme Court would accord the choice to marry someone of the same sex any less respect than the choice to marry an opposite-sex individual who is of different race, owes child support, or is imprisoned. Accordingly, we decline the Proponents’ invitation to characterize the right at issue in this case as the right to same-sex marriage rather than simply the right to marry.

In what has become fairly common, the panel closed its decision with broad thoughts on the underlying issue of same-sex marriage. But this time the court explicitly used the word “segregation” to describe the exclusion of same-sex couples from marriage:

We recognize that same-sex marriage makes some people deeply uncomfortable. However, inertia and apprehension are not legitimate bases for denying same-sex couples due process and equal protection of the laws. Civil marriage is one of the cornerstones of our way of life. It allows individuals to celebrate and publicly declare their intentions to form lifelong partnerships, which provide unparalleled intimacy, companionship, emotional support, and security. The choice of whether and whom to marry is an intensely personal decision that alters the course of an individual’s life. Denying same-sex couples this choice prohibits them from participating fully in our society, which is precisely the type of segregation that the Fourteenth Amendment cannot countenance.

The idea that laws limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples are a form of segregation is historically loaded, especially for a court sitting in the heart of the old Confederacy. Analogies to the black civil rights movement, and in this context specifically to anti-miscegenation laws and second-class status, have become a staple of gay-rights political and legal arguments. Rarely have they gained quite this explicit an endorsement from a prominent court.

The dissenting opinion is a foretaste of the response to the fundamental-rights argument that we will likely hear in the Supreme Court from (at least) four Justices. It proclaims neutrality on the policy question but leans on judicial restraint in the definition of fundamental rights:

This analysis is fundamentally flawed because it fails to take into account that the “marriage” that has long been recognized by the Supreme Court as a fundamental right is distinct from the newly proposed relationship of a “same-sex marriage.” And this failure is even more pronounced by the majority’s acknowledgment that same-sex marriage is a new notion that has not been recognized “for most of our country’s history.” [citation omitted] Moreover, the majority fails to explain how this new notion became incorporated into the traditional definition of marriage except by linguistic manipulation. Thus, the majority never asks the question necessary to finding a fundamental right â€" whether same-sex marriage is a right that is “deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition” and “implicit in the concept of ordered liberty, such that neither liberty nor justice would exist if [it was] sacrificed.” [citations omitted]

We don’t know yet whether Virginia will seek review by the entire appeals court before seeking review in the Supreme Court, which would slow down the process. The 10th Circuit case seems to be on a fast track, with state officials eschewing en banc review. It’s likely that more circuit courts will speak to this issue in the coming months, including possible opinions from the 5th and 6th Circuits.

-Nam
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AllPurposeAtheist

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Nam

Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on July 28, 2014, 04:25:17 PM
One bunch I wouldn't trust to clean up dog shit is the SCOTUS. Don't count on Scalia incorporated..

They get their orders from the Pope.

-Nam
Mad cow disease...it's not just for cows, or the mad!

Gawdzilla Sama

North Carolina's Attorney General says he won't defend the ban there.
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Solitary

Why isn't worded that a Church or churches can decide for themselves, but a secular marriage is legal because of separation of Church and state. Why do politicians and judges always seem to give churches special privileges with law. Solitary
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Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Solitary on July 29, 2014, 10:42:43 AM
Why isn't worded that a Church or churches can decide for themselves, but a secular marriage is legal because of separation of Church and state. Why do politicians and judges always seem to give churches special privileges with law. Solitary
Simple, most of them are believers, or get money from believers, so they are biased. Politics is like that.
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Brian37

If I saw this story on the news correctly, although a case has not been brought in NC, since it falls in the same district the Gov said he would not enforce the ban.
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Solitary

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2014, 12:39:23 PM
Simple, most of them are believers, or get money from believers, so they are biased. Politics is like that.


I know! I know! So much for judges and politicians going by the Constitution and Bill of Rights because of faith in nonsense. Solitary. 
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.