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Parent in Heaven, Child in Hell

Started by Arellius, April 27, 2014, 06:24:46 PM

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Arellius

This is an argument a friend of mine came up with and I thought it was a pretty good analogy and argument.

- Lets say:
In the real world a psychopath kidnaps a child (6 to 8 yrs of age) but the parents don't know yet. When the parents are worried sick about their child the psychopath sends them a video of their child being brutally tortured, the parents can't watch even 10 seconds of it. It's almost unimaginable how these parents must feel. A parent reading this does not even want to imagine such a sickening scenario.

You couldn't imagine a parent, your parent(s) perhaps, to just shake it off in time. They would have to be so cold blooded to even think ''Ah well, the psycho has him now, not much to do but to wish my (our) child all the best.''

- Same scenario but this time some minor adjustments:

For some reason the child dies, hit by a car at full speed perhaps, mother (and father if one is present) grieving and in deep depression. Mother later dies of natural causes, commits no sin. So the mother ends up in Heaven expecting to see her child there. But no, she's been told (by an angel or a heavenly authoritarian like figure) that her child is in Hell (Maybe didn't ''honor thy mother and father'' despite parents always saying they love you no matter what). Her child is burning, suffering in pain in the eternal flames. Eternal, that's a long long time.

Question(s): Does the mother carry on with eternal bliss and have 0% worry or grief for her child ? A parent who loves their child to bits, when you are in Heaven and you know your child is burning in Hell is that not a Hell in Heaven itself ? Or does she change into some kind of overly peaceful and happy zombie type figure, forced to understand why her child is in Hell and divided from her feelings of unconditional love for her child.
Napoleon Hill - Think & Grow Rich

PickelledEggs

In heaven you lose free will.  I think that means you lose human emotions as well.

That is of course hypothetically assuming that heaven (specifically the Christian heaven) exists.

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rex

It was discussed million times. Most popular answer is lobotomy.
One christian told me that her child will be replaced with a perfect clone she will hang out with while the real copy will burn in hell. Which is even more fucked up.

GSOgymrat

Is this like one of those "how does Superman shave?" discussions?

rex

Quote from: GSOgymrat on April 27, 2014, 08:37:07 PM
Is this like one of those "how does Superman shave?" discussions?
Actually how does superman shave is not an easy question. How does he shave?

PickelledEggs

Quote from: rex on April 27, 2014, 08:40:16 PM
Actually how does superman shave is not an easy question. How does he shave?
By delicately looking in to his beard through a mirror and implementing his lazer-vision

rex

Quote from: PickelledEggs on April 27, 2014, 08:42:04 PM
By delicately looking in to his beard through a mirror and implementing his lazer-vision
Sounds like suicide.

PickelledEggs

Quote from: rex on April 27, 2014, 08:45:22 PM
Sounds like suicide.

That's why he has to do it delicately.

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rex

Quote from: PickelledEggs on April 27, 2014, 08:46:29 PM
That's why he has to do it delicately.

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I just remembered that kryptonite makes him human. So apparently it has some use.

stromboli

Depends on which heaven you are talking about. In xtian heaven, all bad memories are washed away. I don't remember the scripture, but its there. Heaven is basically eternal bliss with meals.

billhilly

Do you suppose they serve pork and shellfish with the meals?  Eternity is a long time to go without bacon and shrimp.

Arellius

I just quickly Googled some bible verses on ''Heaven.'' Doesn't say much, or anything at all for that matter, on what it looks like or what is in there.
As far as my own knowledge goes; Land of milk and honey ? To bad for the people that are lactose intolerant, oh he can cure you in Heaven ? But why not on Earth ?! Eternal worship and never ending songs of praise. In my opinion in the Christian afterlife there's not one but two Hells. (Hypothetically speaking).

Conclusion: So in any heaven, they brainwash people and force the parent to accept their child is in Hell. Great.   
Napoleon Hill - Think & Grow Rich

Hydra009

Quote from: Arellius on April 28, 2014, 12:24:45 AMIn my opinion in the Christian afterlife there's not one but two Hells. (Hypothetically speaking).
Depending on the believer and whatever direction the wind is blowing that day, Hell is MUCH better than heaven.  Separation from God?  Oh noes!  And full of non-Christians, many of whom were actually quite admirable in life?  How horrible!

Jason78

Quote from: PickelledEggs on April 27, 2014, 06:31:33 PM
I think that means you lose human emotions as well.

I guess that all depends on if endocrine systems also go to heaven.
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We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real
tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. -Plato

Shiranu

The worst part is alot of them don't have to die and find out how they would react, they will straight up say, "My child made their choice, that makes me sad but they chose it. I'm gonna go chill with mah gawd now, lates!".

"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur