A debate can't ascertain what is the truth mentalists!

Started by Solitary, April 26, 2014, 12:37:18 PM

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 :blahblah: If the mind is completely a product of the material function of the brain then: 1) There will be no mental phenomena without brain function. 2) As brain function is altered, the mind will be altered. 3) If the brain is damaged, then mental function will be damaged. 4) Brain development will correlate with mental development. 5) We will be able to correlate brain activity with mental activity â€" no matter how we choose to look at it. 

The materialist hypothesis - that the brain causes consciousness - has made a number of predictions, and every single prediction has been validated. Every single question that can be answered scientifically - with observation and evidence - that takes the form: “If the brain causes the mind the...” has been resolved in favor of that hypothesis....what no one has done is counter my claim that all predictions made by the materialist hypothesis have been validated.

If they wish to persist in their claims, then I openly challenge them to name one prediction of strict materialism that has been falsified. To be clear, that means one positive prediction for materialism where the evidence falsifies strict materialism. This does not mean evidence we do not currently have, but evidence against materialism or for dualism. I maintain that such evidence does not exist â€" not one bit...   :wall: Opinions, even from scientists, don't matter, only scientific evidence and experiment does. Solitary
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.


Right, proof is not citing non factual material accepted by the majority as truth.

This might be Casparov:

Dunning-Kruger effect, quote:

The Dunningâ€"Kruger effect is a cognitive bias which can manifest in one of two ways:

"Unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.[1]
Those persons to whom a skill or set of skills come easily may find themselves with weak self-confidence, as they may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. "

I've never seen a debate that ended in a clear victory, and never with anyone changing their minds. The only winners in a debate are the few observers that might gain knowledge they otherwise wouldn't have, but most observers are as biased as the participants. And non biased observers usually aren't interested in the debate.