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Inside the mind of climate change denialists.

Started by Gawdzilla Sama, April 07, 2014, 08:58:13 AM

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Gawdzilla Sama

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QuotePeering Into the Minds of the Climate Doubters
As Facts Become Irrefutable, Deniers Become Less Convinced


By J.J. Goldberg

It’s a truism of science that major, transformative events provide unique opportunities to gather data. Seismologists wait for earthquakes to measure tectonic movement. Research meteorologists risk their lives chasing tornadoes to learn their mysteries. Zoologists swing into action during mating season (of the animals, silly).

Climate study can work in much the same way. Take United Nations climate reports. Released only once every few years, they offer a chance to see how the public reacts, who accepts the science, who rushes to pour cold water on it, and why. They’re particularly helpful in testing the claim that skepticism on global warming is just a scam by Big Oil, not an informed set of observations.

The search leads us into three distinct fields of study. First, mainstream climate science, the sort you read about in The New York Times when the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change issues another scary report. Second, skeptical climate science, derisively called climate denialism. That’s the one that tells you the U.N.’s computer models don’t work, global temperatures stopped rising a decade ago and Al Gore should return his Nobel Prize.

The third might surprise you. It’s a growing field of research into the psychology of climate change denial. It starts by assuming that the U.N. scientists know what they’re talking about, that man-made global warming is a real threat and that people who say otherwise have something wrong with them. Skeptics find all this insulting. But it’s growing field with a substantial body of serious academic research, too serious to be ignored. Sorry, gang.

Let’s begin with the “who.” In the first hours and days after the U.N. report was published, negative reactions appeared mainly in unabashedly right-wing outlets like the National Review and the Daily Caller. Even Fox News treated the report respectfully. In England, two of the most stridently right-wing, climate-skeptical dailies, The Mail and the Telegraph, wrote to a parliamentary committee that they now believe climate change is real and substantially human-caused. They admit “the vast majority of climate scientists” agree.
Skeptical comment seems to come from two main sources: conservative ideologues in the right-wing media or spokesmen for conservative think tanks that produce climate-skeptical research, like the Heartland Institute and the Cato Institute’s Center for the Study of Science. A few hours’ digging confirms that they and a dozen like them are funded by two sources: petroleum interests, notably ExxonMobil and the Koch brothers, and ideologically right-wing family foundations like Scaife and Coors.
Interestingly, the role of those two forces â€" petroleum and the ideological right â€" in funding climate-skeptical research isn’t what you’d call significant. It’s overwhelming.

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On the contrary. The arguments were almost comically childish. The basic case was, first, there’s no evidence that global temperature are rising; second, warming (which isn’t happening) is caused by nature, not man; third, a little bit of warming is beneficial. Examples: Seniors retiring to Florida live longer, ergo a warmer planet will extend life spans. Plants thrive on carbon dioxide, so more CO2 in the air means healthier plants, hence more food. Drought? What drought?
And those thousands of peer-reviewed sources? Many date back to the 1970s and 1980s, and often focus on history. Many others confirm that plants like CO2 and balmy weather encourages healthy exercise.
And that’s from Heartland, the most respected skeptical researcher. Others are even sillier.

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http://forward.com/articles/196018/peering-into-the-minds-of-the-climate-doubters/
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AllPurposeAtheist

The funny thing about climate denial or science denial in general is it's always subterfuge for another agenda. You can't live anywhere on the planet and deny science. If you live in a modern home, one with beams, plumbing, electricity and so on you can't deny science. If you've ever ridden in a car, same thing, ever watched TV or listen to a radio or ever experienced modern warfare you can't deny science. You can claim you deny it, but you're ALWAYS in evrry single case just plain full of shit.
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stromboli

#2
And yet despite the overwhelming evidence, a few ultraconservtives can screw the whole mix. And that also includes Australia:

http://reneweconomy.com.au/2014/australia-chooses-climate-change-denier-to-head-renewables-review-65883

"Warburton will head a four-person panel that will report to the Prime Minister’s office, rather than to either the environment department or the ministry for industry, which includes the energy portfolio. Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s chief business advisor, Maurice Newman, shares Warburton’s view of climate science and dislikes renewable energy, wind farms in particular, and Abbott himself has blamed renewable energy for rising electricity costs.

Warburton was one of the main campaigners against the carbon price under the previous Labor government. He said on repeated occasions that climate science was not settled. “On the cause there’s huge debate about whether carbon dioxide is the main cause,” he said at the time."

Solitary

Oh come on, these people know better than all the climatologist scientists that say it is: http://youtu.be/Io-Tb7vTamY  Solitaryy
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

AllPurposeAtheist

That's what happens when 1% get 99.1% of the vote.
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Solitary

There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

stromboli

Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on April 07, 2014, 12:47:02 PM
That's what happens when 1% get 99.1% of the vote.

It is also what happens when the general population is too lazy or complacent to actually find out the truth and buy into BS because some conservative pundit connects climate denial to Gawd.

Solitary

#7
They also deny this, that darkening of the ice from human use of petroleum and forest fires from global warming is causing it to melt faster: This is very long, but it is really worth watching to the end!  http://youtu.be/9euZ6q4bEKs  Solitary
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

Gawdzilla Sama

We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

AllPurposeAtheist

Oh stop, the freethinking skeptics just want to have a debate!
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