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Started by scroyle, April 03, 2014, 01:04:03 PM

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Sargon The Grape

Quote from: La Dolce Vita on April 07, 2014, 03:08:26 PM
I don't really see why he was banned. Sure, some of what he said was raising warning signs troll wise - but I think there was a pretty good chance he was legit. He specified previously that he believed in a conceptual Jesus that was created by the church earlier, and that this Jesus moved him to tears, etc. so him saying he accepted Jesus as his lord and savior probably meant something quite different to him, just as holy meant something else. He used a lot of christian language with different interpretations than the norm. Honestly I think discussion was terminated prematurely.
True enough. I mean, we tolerated Eve and AtheistMofo for, what, a month each? This guy got nowhere near that level of stupidity.
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aitm

Quote from: La Dolce Vita on April 07, 2014, 03:08:26 PM
Honestly I think discussion was terminated prematurely.

I will try to do better next time.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Johan

Quote from: aitm on April 07, 2014, 06:21:22 PM
I will try to do better next time.
You couldn't pay me to be an unpaid moderator on a forum. See what I did there? :wink:

Seriously, I've done it so I know just how much of a thankless job it can be. So, thanks for your time and effort.
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Shiranu

It is what it is. Some trolls last too long, some idiots are prematurely booted. As long as that isn't the norm (that troll's overstay their welcome) then I don't have much a problem.

It just seems weird to me when obvious trolls get 40+ pages without being booted, but then I don't file a complaint to the moderators so I cant really say anything negative about the handling when I offer no help myself.

So as vague as this post was, the point I want to make is I don't think this situation was handled poorly enough to warrant any sort of outrage :P.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

aitm

Quote from: Shiranu on April 07, 2014, 08:12:22 PM
It is what it is. Some trolls last too long, some idiots are prematurely booted. As long as that isn't the norm (that troll's overstay their welcome) then I don't have much a problem.

It just seems weird to me when obvious trolls get 40+ pages without being booted, but then I don't file a complaint to the moderators so I cant really say anything negative about the handling when I offer no help myself.

So as vague as this post was, the point I want to make is I don't think this situation was handled poorly enough to warrant any sort of outrage :P.

I don't know if that was a compliment, but goddammit I think it is. So thanks! And sometimes, we just get into it as well ya know....after all ,we be human ...not godssssssssssss.   :)
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

josephpalazzo

Why don't we put in a strike-system:

1) The first post by a newbie that smells of being a troll gets a strike-warning.
2) Second post of similar content- strike two.
3) Third likewise post - strike three and you're out (banned).

Strike warnings could be in different size/color like:

STRIKE ONE

STRIKE TWO

STRIKE THREE

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Shiranu

Quote from: aitm on April 07, 2014, 10:01:32 PM
I don't know if that was a compliment, but goddammit I think it is. So thanks! And sometimes, we just get into it as well ya know....after all ,we be human ...not godssssssssssss.   :)

I would say it was inbetween, but closer to complement than anything else :P.

It isn't very often that I think someone is prematurely booted and it isn't very often that someone is allowed to troll for too long. The few that trolled too long just stand out more because their threads were 40+ shitfests and/or they posted a shitload of threads and made themselves obvious. But for every 1 of them or those (imo) booted wrongly there are probably 100 more who deserved it. I cant complain about those type of numbers, especially when I do nothing to help bring attention to the moderators of trolls.

QuoteWhy don't we put in a strike-system:

1) The first post by a newbie that smells of being a troll gets a strike-warning.
2) Second post of similar content- strike two.
3) Third likewise post - strike three and you're out (banned).

Strike warnings could be in different size/color like:

Meh, I think 5 strikes would be a bit better... I think alot of non-trolls just don't get the fact that they are being obnoxious and/or stupid as all hell.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

PickelledEggs

I still say restrict suspected trolls to a special section of the forum, like a digital purgatory.. Not in intros, but like a subsection of Enter The Darkness where they can still post, but they are under review and if they keep posting things that are troll-ish or just plain stupid, we can mess with them. Sort of like this


It's probably too much work for the mods to set up though. I know only a very tiny bit about programming and I imagine it would be a huge hassle to do.

Feral Atheist

I heard there is a forum that makes trolls invisible.  To them everything looks normal, they can post, quote, reply, start threads, etc.  Except that they are invisible and no one else can see anything they do.

Basically they feel totally ignored, no one responds to them, and as hard as they try, they can't pick a fight or get a response.  Must be priceless for the mods as they watch them try and try and gets zero response.
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aitm

Oh c'mon guys, everyone like to argue once in awhile...we all know that. Mods are just you guys with a permission button thats all. I want to bitch and argue as well as you do and have fun and mock these twits like the new one some are enamored with.

We like our trolls and we like them at varying amounts of time and we all have limits of tolerance for every troll that varies from person to person. It is what it is and we still have fun and most the time we still boot the ass-hole in a fair amount of time eh?
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Mr.Obvious

Quote from: aitm on April 08, 2014, 09:26:57 PM
Oh c'mon guys, everyone like to argue once in awhile...we all know that. Mods are just you guys with a permission button thats all. I want to bitch and argue as well as you do and have fun and mock these twits like the new one some are enamored with.

We like our trolls and we like them at varying amounts of time and we all have limits of tolerance for every troll that varies from person to person. It is what it is and we still have fun and most the time we still boot the ass-hole in a fair amount of time eh?

I suppose that's true...
Trolls will be trolls.
And for better or worse: the one thing you can always count on is that the internet will never run out of trolls
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Brian37

I have animosity towards racism, sexism, homophobia and people willing to get violent because you picked on their belief. Human rights should be valued, but claims should NEVER get taboo status.

There is a HUGE difference between being bullied and merely being offended. I am a former Catholic myself.
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Jason78

Quote from: Feral Atheist on April 08, 2014, 09:13:54 PM
I heard there is a forum that makes trolls invisible.  To them everything looks normal, they can post, quote, reply, start threads, etc.  Except that they are invisible and no one else can see anything they do.

Basically they feel totally ignored, no one responds to them, and as hard as they try, they can't pick a fight or get a response.  Must be priceless for the mods as they watch them try and try and gets zero response.

I like this idea.  Can we get Wolf to implement it right now?
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