An apology and a clarification

[Contemporary Protestant]

Why are accusing me of ignoring it? You don't know me personally, and what do you consider substituting my own meaning? sometimes the verses make more sense in another language, or if the context is taken into consideration

[Poison Tree]

Why are accusing me of ignoring it? You don't know me personally, and what do you consider substituting my own meaning? sometimes the verses make more sense in another language, or if the context is taken into consideration

Or its a poem or a metaphor or Jesus did away with that part or or or

[Contemporary Protestant]

I gave you an answer, what else do you expect

[leo]

Darwin  with his evolution theory basically destroyed christianity. Most christians liberals or traditionalists aren't aware of this. Evolution shows humans are a species of animals in this planet. Humans descend from animals ancestors. The Adam and Eve story never happen. There isn't a original sin and by default there isn't a real reason for Jesus human nasty sacrifice. Capiche?  :trunksthing: :trunksthing:

[Contemporary Protestant]

You're assuming all Christians believe in original sin, and that all take Adam/Eve literally, I do think you're making a very valid point otherwise

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You're assuming all Christians believe in original sin, and that all take Adam/Eve literally, I do think you're making a very valid point otherwise

Ah, you read from The Great Book of Multiple Choice. Everybody makes up their own religion from the available material, or new stuff.

[Poison Tree]

There isn't a original sin and by default there isn't a real reason for Jesus human nasty sacrifice. Capiche?  :trunksthing: :trunksthing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXOvYn1OAL0

[aileron]

Jesus is a man, I never used the phrase "God-Man"

But as a Christian, you believe Jesus is God, right?  That's what's know as a god-man (Deus homo) in the writings of "doctors of the Church," the early Christian scholars.  The concept of a god-man or the messiah being part of a trinity with God is 100% incompatible with the OT teachings about the messiah.

The Torah (first five books of OT) were written by Moses

Not a chance.  Moses is probably a mythical character.  Even if some Moses-like person existed, modern biblical scholars generally agree that the Pentateuch was written by multiple authors over the span of centuries.   

[Hakurei Reimu]

Tell me something, CP. If you do manage to learn Hebrew and it tells you that Jesus was not born of a virgin, will you then not believe that Jesus was not a virgin birth?

I also find it funny that you can believe the beliefs you got from your Bible wholly come from an English translation of a Latin translation of a Greek translation of an Aramaic/Hebrew translation of the original Torah and New Testament, both of which have sordid redactionary histories even in their native tongues. Doesn't that long chain of translation give you some pause about the certainties of your current convictions?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The NT started out in Greek. Jesus didn't have the star power to attract a single person who could write.

[josephpalazzo]

Y'all disagree with me and Im fine with that, but I think there isn't anything more to say about this

I think the Bible is infallible

You don't

I can't change you, and you can't change me

Yep, you're a waste.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Yep, you're a waste.

As the OP made very clear.

[Contemporary Protestant]

When a new translation is made it isn't taken from the previous one, for example the Dead Sea scrolls, translations have become more accurate

I highly doubt the OT would say Jesus wasn't born of a virgin, if I'm not mistaken, it didn't specify in Isaiah, I will do more research and get back to you

I believe that Jesus is a man and he is God, however the statement god-man is incorrect, because of its English connotation, he is not a demigod, he is 100% man and a 100% God, god-man isn't a phrase that I would use to describe it

[aitm]

I highly doubt the OT would say Jesus wasn't born of a virgin,

the OT never said anything about jesus, you assume that the made up person of "jesus" fits the OT prophesy which has been proven to be false....but you don't care cause you just make shit up as you go.

I will do more research and get back to you

really, everyone here knows more about the babble than you do, you just make up shit to fit your opinion.

I believe that Jesus is a man and he is God..., he is not a demigod,.... he is 100% man and a 100% God,

then why didn't he know when he would return as he said he did eh? He said he would be back "before the death of everyone of this generation". What's your next excuse,,another poem?
meh....you really need to read the babble and come back.
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[Contemporary Protestant]

Aitm,

I get the sense you dislike me, and I have to ask why?

Is it because of my religion or something that I have done?