God is Real

[Contemporary Protestant]

alright thanks for clarifying, but I don't like having words put in my mouth, I have not addressed pantheism, or any other religion or philosophy, I have only talked about my views on Christianity, tbh I'm sure there is truth in all philosophies, however YHWH is the only God i worship

Despite only worshipping YHWH, I like and appreciate other religions, I love Hinduism and think its very interesting, the town I live is about 1/4 hindu, so i have a lot of hindu friends

[josephpalazzo]

Y'all disagree with me and Im fine with that, but I think there isn't anything more to say about this

I think the Bible is infallible

You don't

I can't change you, and you can't change me

Anyone who believes the bible is infallible has a few loose screws up there.

[Contemporary Protestant]

Alright

[Shol'va]

alright thanks for clarifying, but I don't like having words put in my mouth, I have not addressed pantheism, or any other religion or philosophy, I have only talked about my views on Christianity, tbh I'm sure there is truth in all philosophies, however YHWH is the only God i worship

Despite only worshipping YHWH, I like and appreciate other religions, I love Hinduism and think its very interesting, the town I live is about 1/4 hindu, so i have a lot of hindu friends

If there is one thing that you can expect out of this forum and community, is a LOT of resistance to statements and assertions. Expect to be challenged at every turn, sometimes more hostile than other times. I think you've been incredibly cool and level headed so far in regards to your tone and I commend and respect you for it.
One of my very best friends is a Christian in a very fundamental way and we have a lot of respectful and great debates. I love those kinds of interactions and look for opportunities to have them with people.

[Shol'va]

Let me also point out another thing.

Try to put yourself into the shoes of an atheist or basically any skeptic or non-believer, who may feel that he has been lied to his whole live, or was brought up in a home where he had to lie to himself and those around him about their personal views; a person that could not truly express what they believed (or did not believe), a person that spent their childhood in a community where they had to posture the whole time for fear of rejection. Try to imagine living in a world that was almost entirely against you.
Some had it even worse. They were thrown out of their homes for who they were, cut off by all the people they loved.
So now that maybe they were able to work through all that in adulthood and were healed, suddenly they are faced with the same kinds of views, arguments, and attitudes they've heard their whole lives.

Can you understand now why some atheists are angry? Don't take it personal, try to understand where that anger is coming from (and please never EVER say atheists are angry at god; it won't end well).

[Contemporary Protestant]

Y'all (even Aitm) don't seem anger, from my perspective, I see a lot of frustration

Atheists in America have certainly been persecuted more than I have been and I get frustrated with other Christians too, I dislike being associated with homophobic people.

I have learned a lot in the past 24 hours, and in the future I will be far more sensitive to my Atheist friends

[PickelledEggs]

Y'all (even Aitm) don't seem anger, from my perspective, I see a lot of frustration

Atheists in America have certainly been persecuted more than I have been and I get frustrated with other Christians too, I dislike being associated with homophobic people.

I have learned a lot in the past 24 hours, and in the future I will be far more sensitive to my Atheist friends

CP, I like you. I hope that if you really are writing a book, that christans can learn from it. I seriously wish more christians were like you. It's really hard to understand what you are basing our faith off of, because it's not really in line with the bible and instead, you seem like a lot of the christians in my area... the sort of, "yeah. whatever. live and let live. I'm not getting in to other people's business" christan. But I personally don't want to dissect that at this point. I'm just glad you're asking questions. Asking questions is what got most of us to where we are today. And while I don't know if you are eventually going to end up a nonbeliever like we are, I'm glad you're furthering your understanding of other people.

[Hakurei Reimu]

I think its rude for you to say I'm arrogant, I didn't become a Christian until I was a teenager, and I have listened to other philosophies. The other philosophies do not fulfill my spiritual needs

I call you arrogant because you are. Not in the loud "RAR, I'M SUPERIOR!" way, but in the quiet, festering, covert way that carries the air of slippery and dishonest waffling. You allude to these "spiritual needs" that guided your choice but have nothing to do with how the universe is actually arranged. You claim that you didn't "join christianity" until your teenaged years, as if that was proof that you made that decision with a clear, thoughtful and skeptical mind, but I believe this claim to be deceptive if not purposefully so. You might not have formally joined the fold until your teenaged years, but I bet dollars to doughnuts that you were pumped with christian propaganda for all of your life.

False flag, that may not be the proper name, I've heard it described as attacking as false

assuming someone is wrong before asking any questions, Im not claiming to be logical, I'm just saying don't be illogical if you value being logical

You assume that I haven't read your previous posts, or that your position is defensible from any position. I don't have to explicitly ask questions when the position you clearly state as taking is wrong on its face.

[Brian37]

The god character is not real it is merely your own wishful thinking and a reflection of your own selfish desires.

[Contemporary Protestant]

You are entitled to your opinion

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I respect what you are saying but I disagree, religion and science can be together, but only if people are well educated

Religion needs science, science doesn't need religion.

[SGOS]

Religion needs science,

Well, at least begrudgingly, it would seem sometimes.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Well, at least begrudgingly, it would seem sometimes.

They're on the Internet, they're on the cable systems, Joel Osteentatious uses mega-screens to stick his face out at the crowd of suckers who got there in cars controlled by computers from their air conditioned caves with the refrigerators full of beer flown to them on jet aircraft. And they worship a Bronze-age level goat-herder's delusion.

[MagetheEntertainer]

Of course he is!  How do you think I sleep well at night after a long day of misogyny, genocide, and baby killing?  The answer is warm milk and sweet sweet Jesus.

[frosty]

So this is just a joke thread by some guy?

Alright.