Confirmed yet again: the USA is a fascist banana republic

Started by Mandingo, April 01, 2014, 08:59:04 AM

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Quote from: Mandingo on April 01, 2014, 11:36:26 PM
If you read that article, you would note that N Korea is stated to have a incarceration rate comparable to that of the US. See, absolute prison population is not really informative even comparing it with N Korea, because our population is so much higher than N Korea. Hence, incarceration is expressed as a rate, because its a lot more meaningful.

Even that said, a large incarceration rate doesn't mean that the government is necessarily oppressive. A country under economic distress would also tend to have a higher crime rate, and we are indeed under significant economic distress. Also, we have a very nonsense set of drug laws that actually work to aggravate crime even though their initial goal was completely morally pure, if not sound policy, that inflates our prison population with mostly harmless criminals and crowding out criminals that deserve to be there.

I submit that we treat our prisoners with much more humanity than North Korea. That is more telling of whether we live in a oppressive state or not.
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Another noteworthy thing regarding incarceration rate, can also be an indicator of crime fighting efficacy. In other words, how many perps get away with crimes in other countries?

Shol'va

Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 02, 2014, 09:34:35 AMPlease don't forget to celebrate this bullshit CIA argument of yours when the country I live in is invaded by the US in the next decade
You guys have oil ???

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Shol'va on April 02, 2014, 02:23:29 PM
Another noteworthy thing regarding incarceration rate, can also be an indicator of crime fighting efficacy. In other words, how many perps get away with crimes in other countries?
Depends. How large is their government? ("The best way to be a criminal is to be in the halls of power.")
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers