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Quote from: "MitchellDaBomb"hey, i'm Mitch. I consider myself to be muslim (one who submits to god). I joined here to include myself in the discussions of this forum, to talk about religion in the most unbias way I can. I love to talk about all religious concepts, regardless of origin. XD

I always wanted to ask two questions from a mu$l!m without getting my head chopped off. :-&
 Maybe you can answer them

1) Why must we pray to The God. What do we gain from asskissing anyway?

2) Why do you believe in an entity which will throw you into hell for praying to a wrong god? or praying to right god but including some other person or entity with it?

Very good questions

First id like to say that Muslim means "One who submits to god's will"
Its wrong to ascribe immoral actions such as terrorism and violence to a group of people who simply belief in God (The moneyed media doesn't help this -.-). Many "Muslims" (not really believers if they are violently natured) have failed to understand that holy way was exactly what it meant "Just War (A war of morals)". Do those who have killed innocents without purpose represent the belief in god as a whole?

Now to answer your questions

You don't have to choose to pray to god, if you don't desire to. You have every right not to. You have freewill (sort of). Since we are basically his collective manifestation of knowledge, We reflect his perfected will (True Freewill, able to do anything). That is why we have freewill (His will is projected through us). A more difficult thing to understand: Our freewill constitutes his will, therefore we have no actual freewill at all. True Will (Pure Desire, without the limitations of material life) is obtained after death based on the actions of this life..So you can choose not to follow him, and that will be your choice..god isn't limiting you at all in this life if you choose not to follow him. You will only be limited in the hereafter, based on your performance. If you follow the straight path (making good decisions in the name of god), there will be less restrictions placed on you in the afterlife.

Actually almost all forms of prayer are good. All objects are his, so it doesn't really matter what you pray to. But if you are praying without belief (faith) and praying for desire or want, then the prayers are ineffective. All thoughts are heard. Prayers with carnal desire do not succeed. Praying for good must be followed by good action. You expect an all-encompassing, self-subsisting, omniscient god to bow to your will? And hell is only a place for those who completely deny him to the day they die, and beyond. Anyone who fails to see god in this life, will certainly fail to see him in the next.
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You, just like Christian apologists are being disingenuous when you say it is a moral law you are talking about. Explain how this is so with just these quotes from your Holy Book?

1.Don't bother warning the disbelievers. Allah has made it impossible for them to believe so that he can torture them forever after they die. 2:6-7

2.Allah has sickened the hearts of disbelievers and increased their disease. He is a spiritual anti-doctor. 2:10

3.If you try to compose a surah that is better than those in the Quran, and then fail, Allah will burn you forever if you in the fire that he has prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

4.Allah will shed human blood while angels praise him in heaven. (The angels question why Allah has to kill people; Allah says they'd understand if they knew everything like he does.) 2:30

5.They who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein." 2:39

6. There will come a day when Allah will refuse all prayers and help no one. 2:48

7.Allah brags about drowning the Egyptian army. 2:50

8."Whosoever hath done evil and his sin surroundeth him; such are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:81

9.Christians and Jews (who believe in only part of the Scripture), will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85

10."They have incurred anger upon anger. For disbelievers is a shameful doom." 90

11."For disbelievers is a painful doom." 2:104

12.Allah will make disbelievers' lives miserable in this world and torture them forever after they die. 2:114

13."And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire." (They are the non-muslims.) 2:119

14.Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

15.The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

16."On the day when they behold the doom and all their aims collapse with them ... Allah is severe punishment!" 2:165-6

17.They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

18.Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

19.How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

20."Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

21. If someone murders your slave, then you get to kill one of his. If it was a male that was killed, you kill one of the killer's male slaves. If a female, you kill a female. Murder for murder. Slave for slave. It all works out swell with Allah's wondrous rules. (Oh, and if you don't follow them, you'll have the usual painful doom.) 2:178

22."Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you." 2:190

23.Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

24.Allah says that you must keep fighting until there is no more persecution and everyone on earth is a Muslim. Then you can stop killing people. 2:193a

25.But if there are any wrong-doers around after you've killed off all the disbelievers, persecutors and aggressors, then you'll have to kill them too. 2:193b

26."Guard us from the doom of Fire." 2:201

27.Those who fail in their duty to Allah are proud and sinful. They will all go to hell. 2:206

28.War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

29.It's you and your religion against them and theirs. They won't stop fighting until they make you a "renegade from your religion" and if they succeed in that so you die in disbelief, Allah will burn you forever in the Fire. 2:217

30.Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

31."Those who swallow usury ... are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:275  

32.Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4

33.Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

34.Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12

35."Guard us from the punishment of Fire." 3:16

36.Non-muslims will be punished by Allah for their nonbelief. 3:19

37."If they surrender, then truly they are rightly guided, and if they turn away, then it is thy duty only to convey the message."
 (The message for those who won't surrender is "you're going to hell.") 3:20

38.Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21

39."They [Christians and Jews] say: The Fire will not touch us save for a certain number of days. That which they used to invent hath deceived them regarding their religion." (The Fire will burn them forever.) 3:24

40."Allah will neither speak to them nor look upon them on the Day of Resurrection, nor will He make them grow. Theirs will be a painful doom." 3:77

41.All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85

42.Apostates will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:86-88

43.Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

44."Ye were upon the brink of an abyss of fire, and He did save you from it." 3:103

45.Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6

46.Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116

47.The Fire is prepared for disbelievers. 3:131

48.We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire 3:151

49.If you die fighting for Allah, you'll be rewarded in heaven. 3:157

50."Is one who followeth the pleasure of Allah as one who hath earned condemnation from Allah, whose habitation is the Fire?"
 Unbelievers will burn forever in the Fire. 3:162

51."Think not of those, who are slain in the way of Allah, as dead."
 (Quoted by Osama bin Laden in his 'letter to America' regarding the 11 September 2001 attacks.) 3:169-171

52.Theirs will be an awful doom. 3:176

53.Disbelievers do not harm Allah, but will have a painful doom. 3:177

54.Disbelievers will have a shameful doom. 3:178

55."Taste ye the punishment of burning!" 3:181

56.Whoso is removed from the Fire and is made to enter paradise, he indeed is triumphant." (The rest will burn forever in the Fire.) 3:185

57.Those who brag about doing good will go to hell. 3:188

58."Preserve us from the doom of Fire." 3:191

59."Our Lord! Whom Thou causest to enter the Fire: him indeed Thou hast confounded. For evil-doers there will be no helpers." 3:192

60.Those who die fighting for Allah will go to heaven. 3:195b

61.Disbelievers will go to Hell. 3:196  

62.Don't steal from orphans (or Allah will burn you forever in hell). 4:10

63.Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will be burnt with fire and suffer a painful doom. 4:14

64.For the disbelievers and those who make a last-minute conversion, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 4:18

65."We shall cast him into Fire, and that is ever easy for Allah." 4:30

66.For disbelievers, We prepare a shameful doom. 4:37

67.Those who ...believe not in Allah nor the Last Day" will face a shameful doom. 4:38

68."Sanction is given unto those who fight because they have been wronged."
 Quoted by Osama bin Laden in his 'letter to America' as a justification for the 11 September 2001 attacks. 4:39

69.Apostates are going to hell. 4:55

70.Unbelievers will be tormented forever with fire. When their skin is burned off, a fresh skin will be provided. 4:56

71.Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars. 4:74

72.Believers fight for Allah; disbelievers fight for the devil. So fight the minions of the devil. 4:76

73.Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89

74.If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 4:91

75.Believers who kill believers will face the awful doom of hell. 4:93

76.After non-Muslims die, they will make excuses for their unbelief -- like saying that they were oppressed. Then the angels will ask them, "Why didn't you move to another country?" But the angels won't wait for an answer. They'll just take them all to hell. 4:97

77.Those who oppose the messenger and become unbelievers will go to hell. 4:115

78.Allah will lead them astray, arouse desires in them, and they will go to hell. 4:119-121

79.Those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe and disbelieve again will never be forgiven by Allah. 4:137

80.For the hypocrites there will be a painful doom. 4:138

81.Allah will gather hypocrites and disbelievers into hell. 4:140

82.The hypocrites will be in the lowest part of hell and no one will help them there. 4:145

83.You must believe everything Allah and his messengers tell you. Those who don't are disbelievers and will face a painful doom. 4:150-151

84.For the wrongdoing Jews, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 4:160-1

85.Allah will guide disbelievers down the road to hell. 4:167-169

86.If you don't do good works, Allah will punish you with a painful doom. 4:173  

87."Fear Me! 5:3

88.Those who deny Islam will be losers in the Hereafter. 5:5

89.Disbelievers are the rightful owners of Hell. 5:10

90."The owners of the fire. That is the reward of evil-doers." 5:29

91.Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom. 5:33

92.Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 5:36

93.Disbelievers will want to come out of the Fire, but will not. Their will be a lasting doom. 5:37

94.Cut off the hands of thieves. It is an exemplary punishment from Allah. 5:38

95.Allah makes some people sin. He will not cleanse their hearts. They will have ignominy in this world, and in the Hereafter an awful doom. 5:41

96.Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, and tooth for tooth. 5:45

97.Christians will be burned in the Fire. 5:72

98.Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom. 5:73

99.Muslims that make friends with disbelievers will face a doom prepared for them by Allah. 5:80

100.Disbelievers will be owners of hell-fire. 5:86

101.Allah will test believers to see if they are afraid. Those who fail a second test will suffer a a painful doom. 5:94

102.After agreeing to send down a table of food from heaven, Jesus warns his disciples that will catch holy hell if they ever stop believing. 5:115  

103.Those who deny the truth of Islam will be punished by Allah. 6:5

104."See the nature of the consequence for the rejecters!" 6:11

105.Many generations have been destroyed by Allah. 6:6

106.Disbelievers will say when they see the Fire that they would have believed if they had known the truth. But they are all liars. 6:27-28

107."Evil-doers flout the revelations of Allah." 6:33

108.Allah will torment those how deny his revelations. 6:49

109.Those who disbelieve will be forced to drink boiling water, and will face a painful doom. 6:70

110.When nonbelievers die, the angels will deliver to them doom and degradation. 6:93

111.Allah allows some to disbelieve in the afterlife, and to take pleasure in their disbelief, so that he can torment them forever after they die. 6:113

112.Allah chooses to lead some astray, and he lays ignominy on those who disbelieve. 6:125

113.Allah will send everyone the Fire, except those he chooses to deliver. 6:128

114.Let the idolaters kill their children. It is Allah's will. 6:137

115.The worst thing anyone can do is deny the revelations of Allah. Those who do so will be awared an evil doom. 6:157  

116.How many a township have We destroyed! As a raid by night, or while they slept at noon, Our terror came unto them. 7:4-5

117.Allah banishes Iblis and promises to fill hell with those who are mislead by him. 7:18

118.Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire. 7:36

119.Entire nations have entered the Fire. Some get a double torment. 7:38

120."Taste the doom for what ye used to earn." 7:39

121.Disbelievers will be excluded from heaven. Theirs will be a bed of hell. 7:40-41

122.Those in the fire will be taunted by those in the Garden. "So how's it going down there? Are you enjoying the warmth of the Fire?" 7:44

123.Those in the Garden will plead with Allah not to be cast into the Fire. 7:47

124.Those in the Fire will cry out to those in heaven, saying: "Pour water on us." But Allah has forbidden that to disbelievers. 7:50

125.Allah drowned everyone on earth (except Noah and his family) because they disbelieved. 7:64

126.Those who believe incorrectly will face the terror and wrath of Allah. 7:71

127."We cut the root of those who denied Our revelations and were not believers." 7:72

128.Allah killed the disbelievers with an earthquake. 7:78

129.Allah killed everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah except Lot and his daughters.
7:83-84

130."So the earthquake seized them."
 Allah killed the disbelievers with an earthquake. 7:90-91

131."How can I sorrow for a people that rejected (truth)?"
 Shu'eyb tells the Allah's victims that they deserved to die for rejecting Islam. 7:93

132."Then We seized them unawares, when they perceived not."
 Unbelievers are never safe from Allah's wrath. 7:95-99

133."We straitened Pharaoh's folk with famine."
 Allah sent a famine on all of the Egyptians to punish Pharaoh. 7:130

134."So We sent against them the flood and the locusts and the vermin and the frogs and the blood - a succession of clear signs." 7:133

135."We drowned them in the sea: because they denied Our revelations." 7:136

136.Those who worship the calf will suffer terror and humiliation from Allah. 7:152

137."But those of them who ... changed the word ... We sent down upon them wrath from heaven." 7:162

138."Why preach ye to a folk whom Allah is about to destroy or punish with an awful doom?" 7:164

139."When they forgot that whereof they had been reminded, We ... visited [them] with dreadful punishment." 7:165

140.Allah will punish the disbelieving Jews until the Day of Resurrection. 7:167

141.Allah has already sent many people and jinn to hell. They were worse than cows: they couldn't see or hear and were neglectful. 7:179  

142."Allah ... cut the root of the disbelievers."
 Allah destroyed the unbelievers. 8:7

143.Allah will throw fear into the hearts of the disbelievers, and smite their necks and fingers. 8:12

144.Disbelievers will be tormented in the Fire. 8:14

145.When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell. 8:15-16

146.Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 8:17

147.Taste of the doom because ye disbelieve. 8:35

148.Those who disbelieve will be gathered into hell. 8:36

149."The wicked will He place piece upon piece, and heap them all together, and consign them unto hell." 8:37

150.Those that live or die in war are a clear proof of Allah's sovereignty. 8:31

151.The angels smite the face and backs of disbelievers, saying: "Taste the punishment of burning!" 8:50

152.Don't let the disbelievers think they can escape. They are your enemy and the enemy of Allah. 8:59-60

153.Had it not been for an ordinance of Allah which had gone before, an awful doom had come upon you." 8:68

154.He [Allah] gave thee [Muhammad] power over them."
 Allah gave Muhammad slaves as war booty. 8:70-1  

155.Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve. 9:3

156.Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. 9:5

157.Don't let idolaters tend the sanctuaries. Their works are in vain and they will be burned in the Fire. 9:17

158."Count ye the slaking of a pilgrim's thirst ... as (equal to the worth of) him who believeth in Allah and the Last Day, and striveth in the way of Allah?"
 Helping the poor is not as important as believing in Islam and fighting in holy wars. 9:19

159.Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis. 9:34

160.Those who are tormented in the Fire will have their foreheads and backs branded. 9:35

161.If you refuse to fight, Allah will afflict you with a painful doom. 9:39

162.Disbelievers go to hell. 9:49

163."Allah will afflict you with a doom from Him or at our hands." 9:52

164.Those who vex the Prophet, for them there is a painful doom. 9:60

165.Those who oppose Allah and His messenger will burn in the fire of hell. 9:63

166.Allah promises hypocrites and disbelievers the fire of hell. Allah curses them. They will have a lasting torment. 9:68

167.Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway. 9:73

168.Allah will afflict disbelievers with a painful doom in this world and the Hereafter. 9:74

169."Theirs will be a painful doom." 9:79

170.Those who refuse to give their wealth and lives to Allah will face the fire of hell. 9:81-83

171.For disbelievers there will be a painful doom. 9:90

172.Non-muslim who pretend to believe (so they won't be killed by Muslims) are unclean and will go to hell. 9:95

173.The unbelieving Arabs will be punished by Allah with an evil fortune. 9:97-98

174."We shall chastise them twice; then they will be relegated to a painful doom." 9:101

175.Those that ignore Allah will be thown into the fire of hell. 9:109

176.Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed , and are bound to do so by the Torah, Gospel, and Quran. But Allah will reward them for it. 9:111

177.Don't pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. 9:113

178.Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123  

179.Disbelievers will have a boiling drink and a painful doom. 10:4

180.If you enjoy life and ignore Muhammad's bullshit, Allah will torture you forever in the Fire after you die. 10:7-8

181.Allah has destroyed entire generations. 10:13

182."Ignominy overtaketh them - They have no protector from Allah - as if their faces had been covered with a cloak of darkest night. Such are rightful owners of the Fire." 10:27

183.On the last day Allah will kill all the disbelievers (and then he will torture them forever in hell). 10:45

184."His doom cometh unto you as a raid by night." 10:50

185.The damned will feel remorse for what they have done, but it will not save them from the doom that Allah has prepared. 10:54

186.Those who disbelieved will face a dreadful doom. 10:70

187.Allah drowned those who disbelieved his revelations. 10:73

188.Moses asked Allah to harden the hearts of the Egyptians so that they would not believe until they saw the painful doom. 10:88

189.If you deny the revelations of Allah, you will be among the losers and will "see the painful doom." 10:95-97  

190."The doom cannot be averted from them, and that which they derided will surround them." 11:8

191.Allah sent a lasting doom on those who mocked Noah. 11:39

192.Allah will send a painful doom on several nations. 11:48

193."Lo! there cometh unto them a doom which cannot be repelled." 11:76

194.Allah killed everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah by dropping burning stones on them. 11:82-83

195.Lo! Is fear for you the doom of a besetting Day." 11:84

196."Ye will soon know on whom there cometh a doom that will abase him." 11:93

197."He ... will lead them to the Fire for watering-place." 11:98

198."The doom of the Hereafter" 11:103

199.Those in the Fire will suffer as long as the heavens and earth endure. 11:106-7

200."Incline not toward those who do wrong lest the Fire touch you." 11:113

201.Allah will fill hell with humans and jinn. 11:119  

202.Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire 13:5

203.Those who do not answer Allah's call will go to hell. 13:18

204.Allah leads disbelievers astry while he torments them in this life. Then afterh they die, he makes them uffer even more pain in the doom of the Hereafter. 13:33-34

205.The reward for disbelievers is the Fire. 13:35

206."When Allah doometh there is none that can postpone His doom." 13:41  

207.Woe unto the disbelievers. Theirs will be an awful doom. 14:2

208.Those who are in hell will be forced to drink festering water which they can hardly swallow. They will want to die, but they will not be able to. Theirs is a harsh doom. 14:16-17

209.There is no escape from Allah's doom. 14:21

210."Lo! for wrong-doers is a painful doom." 14:22

211.Allah leads wrong-doers astray and then sends them to hell. 14:27-29

212."They set up rivals to Allah that they may mislead (men) from His way. Say: Enjoy life (while ye may) for lo! your journey's end will be the Fire." 14:30

213."Warn mankind of a day when the doom will come upon them." 14:44

214.Those in hell will be chained together. Their clothing will be made of pitch and fire will cover their faces. 14:49-50  

215.Iblis will lead humans astray. Only perfect Muslims will be safe from him. The rest will go to hell. 15:39-43

216.Allah's doom is a dolorous doom. 15:50  

217.Allah made a roof fall in to kill unbelievers. "And the doom came on them whence they knew not." 16:26

218.Disbelievers are evil and will dwell in hell forever. 16:27-29

219.Allah "will cause the earth to swallow" those who plan ill-deeds. the doom will come on them when they least expect it. 16:45

220.Theirs will be the Fire, and they will be abandoned." 16:62

221."Theirs will be a painful doom." 16:63

222."The Hour of Doom is but a twinkling of the eye." 16:77

223."When those who did wrong behold the doom, it will not be made light for them." 16:85

224.Allah will add doom to doom for those who disbelieve. 16:88

225.Those who oppose Islam will face an awful doom. 16:94

226.Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 16:104

227.Those who loose their faith in Islam will face an awful doom. Allah's wrath is upon them. 16:106

228.Those who invent lies against Allah will have a painful doom. 16:116-7  

229.Allah made hell to be a dungeon for disbelievers. 17:8

230.Allah has prepared a painful doom for those who disbelieve in the Hereafter. 17:10

231.Allah destroyed entire towns. 17:16

232.How many generations Allah has destroyed since Noah! 17:17

233.Allah intends to burn people in hell. 17:18

234."Set not up with Allah any other god, lest thou be cast into hell." 17:39

235."Lo! the doom of thy Lord is to be shunned." 17:57

236.Allah will destroy every town before the Day of Resurrection. 17:58

237.Whoever follows Iblis will be cast into hell. 17:63

238."Whoso is blind here will be blind in the Hereafter, and yet further from the road." 17:72

239.Allah will send disbelievers astray. Then he'll burn them in hell, increasing the flames from time to time. 17:97-98  

240.Allah has prepared a Fire for the disbelievers. When they want a shower, Allah will give them a shower of molten lead to burn their faces. 18:29

241.Christians will cry out to Allah's "partners", but they won't hear them; Allah will send them to their doom. 18:52

242.Those who are condemned to the Fire know they will have no way to escape. 18:53

243.Nothing prevents non-muslims from believing in Islam. So it's their own fault when they are sent to their doom. 18:55

244.There is an appointed time in which the doomed will find no escape. 18:58

245.Allah has destroyed many towns. 18:59

246.On a certain day, Allah will present hell, in plain view, to the disbelievers. 18:100

247.Allah will welcome the disbelievers into hell. 18:102

248.The good works of disbelievers are all in vain. They will go to hell anyway. 18:104-105

249.Hell is the reward for disbelievers because they made a jest of Allah's revelations and messengers. 18:106  

250."Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day."
 Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell. 19:35-37

251.Allah will pluck out from every sect those who should burn in hell. 19:69-70

252."How many a generation have We destroyed before them?"
 Allah brags about destroying entire generations. 19:74

253.Allah will prolong the lives of non-believers so they can see their punishment, either in this world or in the Hour of doom. 19:75

254.Allah will record what disbelievers say and then prolong their torment. 19:77-79

255.Allah has sent the devils on the disbelievers to confuse them. 19:83

256.Allah will "drive the guilty unto hell, a weary herd." 19:86

257.Allah has destroyed many generations. 19:98  

258.Allah destroyed entire towns, yet the people still disbelieved. 20:6

259.The people cried out for mercy, but Allah killed them anyway. 20:15

260.Lo! it hath been revealed unto us that the doom will be for him who denieth and turneth away." 20:48

261."There [in hell] he will neither die nor live." 20:74

262.Those who do not believe Allah's revelations will face doom in the Hereafter. 20:127

263.Allah has destroyed many generations. 20:128  

264.Allah destroyed entire towns, yet the people still disbelieved. 21:6

265."And one of them who should say: Lo! I am a god beside Him, that one We should repay with hell." 21:29

266.Disbelievers will not be able to put out the fire on their faces and backs. They will be stupefied and no one will help them. 21:39-40

267."Fear the Lord ... and dread the Hour of doom." 21:49

268.Every person alive at the time of the flood was evil. So Allah drowned them all. 21:77

269.The disbelievers will stare in terror at what Allah has in store for them. 21:97-99  

270.Fear your Lord. Lo! the earthquake of the Hour (of Doom)."
 Earquakes are sent by Allah to terrorize and kill people. 22:1

271."Every nursing mother will forget her nursling and every pregnant one will be delivered of her burden and thou (Muhammad) wilt see mankind as drunken, yet they will not be drunken, but the Doom of Allah will be strong (upon them)."
 When the doom of Allah comes, pregnant women will suffer miscarriages, and men will act like they are drunk. 22:2

272."Among mankind is he who disputeth concerning Allah without knowledge, and followeth each froward devil will mislead him and will guide him to the punishment of the Flame."
 The devil will guide some to the punishment of the Flame.22:3-4

273."He who disputeth concerning Allah without knowledge or guidance or a scripture giving light, Turning away in pride to beguile (men) from the way of Allah. For him in this world is ignominy, and on the Day of Resurrection We make him taste the doom of burning."
 Those who turn from the way of Allah will face ignominy in this world and the doom of burning in the next. 22:8-9

274.Whoever thinks that Allah will not give Muhammad victory should go hang himself. 22:15

275."There are many unto whom the doom is justly due. Allah doeth what he will." 22:18

276.Disbelievers will wear garments of fire, boiling fluid will be poured on their heads, their bellies and skin will be melted, they will be tormented with iron hooks, and when they try to escape they will be driven back with the taunt: Taste the doom of burning. 22:19-22

277.Allah will provide the disbelievers with a painful doom. 22:25

278.How many towns Allah has destroyed! 22:45

279."They will bid thee hasten on the Doom." 22:47

280.Those who disregard Allah's revelations are the owners of the Fire. 22:51

281."Those who disbelieve will not cease to be in doubt thereof until the Hour come upon them unawares, or there come unto them the doom of a disastrous day." 22:55

282.Those who disbelieve Allah's revelations will have a shameful doom. 22:57

283.Those who disbelieve Allah's revelations will burn in the Fire. 22:72  

284.Allah told Noah not to bother pleading for the people he was about to drown. 23:27

285.Those who don't believe in the Hereafter will receive extreme punishment from Allah. 23:74-77

286."Those whose scales are light are those who lose their souls, in hell abiding." 23:103

287.When fire burns their faces, they will be glum. 23:104  

288.Scourge adulterers and adulteresses with 100 stripes. Do not show them any pity. Have a party of believers watch the punishment. 24:2

289.Those who spread slander will face an awful doom. 24:11

290.Those who murmur will face an awful doom. 24:14

291.Those who traduce virtuous, believing women ... cursed are they in the world and the Hereafter. Theirs will be an awful doom." 24:23

292.Disbelievers will never escape the Fire that will be their home. 24:57  

293.Those who deny the coming of the Hour will be chained together and burned with fire. They will pray for their own destruction. 25:11-13

294.Allah will force the evil-doers to taste great torment. 25:19

295.It will be a hard day for disbelievers and wrong-doers. They will gnaw on their hands and wish they had chosen Islam. 25:26-27

296."Those who will be gathered on their faces unto hell" 25:34

297.Those who deny Muhammad's revelations will be destroyed. 25:36

298.Allah drowned everyone in the flood of Noah, and has prepared a painful doom for evil-doers. 25:37

299."They [the non-muslims] will know, when they behold the doom, who is more astray as to the road." 25:42

300."The doom of hell; lo! the doom thereof is anguish." 25:65

301.Those who cry out to another god with Allah will be tormented doubly in hell. 25:68-69  

And it keeps going!  [-X  :P  :twisted:  Solitary
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

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Quote from: "Solitary"You, just like Christian apologists are being disingenuous when you say it is a moral law you are talking about. Explain how this is so with just these quotes from your Holy Book?

1.Don't bother warning the disbelievers. Allah has made it impossible for them to believe so that he can torture them forever after they die. 2:6-7

2.Allah has sickened the hearts of disbelievers and increased their disease. He is a spiritual anti-doctor. 2:10

3.If you try to compose a surah that is better than those in the Quran, and then fail, Allah will burn you forever if you in the fire that he has prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

4.Allah will shed human blood while angels praise him in heaven. (The angels question why Allah has to kill people; Allah says they'd understand if they knew everything like he does.) 2:30

5.They who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein." 2:39

6. There will come a day when Allah will refuse all prayers and help no one. 2:48

7.Allah brags about drowning the Egyptian army. 2:50

8."Whosoever hath done evil and his sin surroundeth him; such are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:81

9.Christians and Jews (who believe in only part of the Scripture), will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85

10."They have incurred anger upon anger. For disbelievers is a shameful doom." 90

11."For disbelievers is a painful doom." 2:104

12.Allah will make disbelievers' lives miserable in this world and torture them forever after they die. 2:114

13."And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire." (They are the non-muslims.) 2:119

14.Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

15.The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

16."On the day when they behold the doom and all their aims collapse with them ... Allah is severe punishment!" 2:165-6

17.They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

18.Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

19.How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

20."Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

21. If someone murders your slave, then you get to kill one of his. If it was a male that was killed, you kill one of the killer's male slaves. If a female, you kill a female. Murder for murder. Slave for slave. It all works out swell with Allah's wondrous rules. (Oh, and if you don't follow them, you'll have the usual painful doom.) 2:178

22."Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you." 2:190

23.Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

24.Allah says that you must keep fighting until there is no more persecution and everyone on earth is a Muslim. Then you can stop killing people. 2:193a

25.But if there are any wrong-doers around after you've killed off all the disbelievers, persecutors and aggressors, then you'll have to kill them too. 2:193b

26."Guard us from the doom of Fire." 2:201

27.Those who fail in their duty to Allah are proud and sinful. They will all go to hell. 2:206

28.War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

29.It's you and your religion against them and theirs. They won't stop fighting until they make you a "renegade from your religion" and if they succeed in that so you die in disbelief, Allah will burn you forever in the Fire. 2:217

30.Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

31."Those who swallow usury ... are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:275  

32.Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4

33.Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

34.Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12

35."Guard us from the punishment of Fire." 3:16

36.Non-muslims will be punished by Allah for their nonbelief. 3:19

37."If they surrender, then truly they are rightly guided, and if they turn away, then it is thy duty only to convey the message."
 (The message for those who won't surrender is "you're going to hell.") 3:20

38.Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21

39."They [Christians and Jews] say: The Fire will not touch us save for a certain number of days. That which they used to invent hath deceived them regarding their religion." (The Fire will burn them forever.) 3:24

40."Allah will neither speak to them nor look upon them on the Day of Resurrection, nor will He make them grow. Theirs will be a painful doom." 3:77

41.All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85

42.Apostates will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:86-88

43.Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

44."Ye were upon the brink of an abyss of fire, and He did save you from it." 3:103

45.Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6

46.Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116

47.The Fire is prepared for disbelievers. 3:131

48.We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire 3:151

49.If you die fighting for Allah, you'll be rewarded in heaven. 3:157

50."Is one who followeth the pleasure of Allah as one who hath earned condemnation from Allah, whose habitation is the Fire?"
 Unbelievers will burn forever in the Fire. 3:162

51."Think not of those, who are slain in the way of Allah, as dead."
 (Quoted by Osama bin Laden in his 'letter to America' regarding the 11 September 2001 attacks.) 3:169-171

52.Theirs will be an awful doom. 3:176

53.Disbelievers do not harm Allah, but will have a painful doom. 3:177

54.Disbelievers will have a shameful doom. 3:178

55."Taste ye the punishment of burning!" 3:181

56.Whoso is removed from the Fire and is made to enter paradise, he indeed is triumphant." (The rest will burn forever in the Fire.) 3:185

57.Those who brag about doing good will go to hell. 3:188

58."Preserve us from the doom of Fire." 3:191

59."Our Lord! Whom Thou causest to enter the Fire: him indeed Thou hast confounded. For evil-doers there will be no helpers." 3:192

60.Those who die fighting for Allah will go to heaven. 3:195b

61.Disbelievers will go to Hell. 3:196  

62.Don't steal from orphans (or Allah will burn you forever in hell). 4:10

63.Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will be burnt with fire and suffer a painful doom. 4:14

64.For the disbelievers and those who make a last-minute conversion, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 4:18

65."We shall cast him into Fire, and that is ever easy for Allah." 4:30

66.For disbelievers, We prepare a shameful doom. 4:37

67.Those who ...believe not in Allah nor the Last Day" will face a shameful doom. 4:38

68."Sanction is given unto those who fight because they have been wronged."
 Quoted by Osama bin Laden in his 'letter to America' as a justification for the 11 September 2001 attacks. 4:39

69.Apostates are going to hell. 4:55

70.Unbelievers will be tormented forever with fire. When their skin is burned off, a fresh skin will be provided. 4:56

71.Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars. 4:74

72.Believers fight for Allah; disbelievers fight for the devil. So fight the minions of the devil. 4:76

73.Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89

74.If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 4:91

75.Believers who kill believers will face the awful doom of hell. 4:93

76.After non-Muslims die, they will make excuses for their unbelief -- like saying that they were oppressed. Then the angels will ask them, "Why didn't you move to another country?" But the angels won't wait for an answer. They'll just take them all to hell. 4:97

77.Those who oppose the messenger and become unbelievers will go to hell. 4:115

78.Allah will lead them astray, arouse desires in them, and they will go to hell. 4:119-121

79.Those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe and disbelieve again will never be forgiven by Allah. 4:137

80.For the hypocrites there will be a painful doom. 4:138

81.Allah will gather hypocrites and disbelievers into hell. 4:140

82.The hypocrites will be in the lowest part of hell and no one will help them there. 4:145

83.You must believe everything Allah and his messengers tell you. Those who don't are disbelievers and will face a painful doom. 4:150-151

84.For the wrongdoing Jews, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 4:160-1

85.Allah will guide disbelievers down the road to hell. 4:167-169

86.If you don't do good works, Allah will punish you with a painful doom. 4:173  

87."Fear Me! 5:3

88.Those who deny Islam will be losers in the Hereafter. 5:5

89.Disbelievers are the rightful owners of Hell. 5:10

90."The owners of the fire. That is the reward of evil-doers." 5:29

91.Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom. 5:33

92.Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 5:36

93.Disbelievers will want to come out of the Fire, but will not. Their will be a lasting doom. 5:37

94.Cut off the hands of thieves. It is an exemplary punishment from Allah. 5:38

95.Allah makes some people sin. He will not cleanse their hearts. They will have ignominy in this world, and in the Hereafter an awful doom. 5:41

96.Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, and tooth for tooth. 5:45

97.Christians will be burned in the Fire. 5:72

98.Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom. 5:73

99.Muslims that make friends with disbelievers will face a doom prepared for them by Allah. 5:80

100.Disbelievers will be owners of hell-fire. 5:86

101.Allah will test believers to see if they are afraid. Those who fail a second test will suffer a a painful doom. 5:94

102.After agreeing to send down a table of food from heaven, Jesus warns his disciples that will catch holy hell if they ever stop believing. 5:115  

103.Those who deny the truth of Islam will be punished by Allah. 6:5

104."See the nature of the consequence for the rejecters!" 6:11

105.Many generations have been destroyed by Allah. 6:6

106.Disbelievers will say when they see the Fire that they would have believed if they had known the truth. But they are all liars. 6:27-28

107."Evil-doers flout the revelations of Allah." 6:33

108.Allah will torment those how deny his revelations. 6:49

109.Those who disbelieve will be forced to drink boiling water, and will face a painful doom. 6:70

110.When nonbelievers die, the angels will deliver to them doom and degradation. 6:93

111.Allah allows some to disbelieve in the afterlife, and to take pleasure in their disbelief, so that he can torment them forever after they die. 6:113

112.Allah chooses to lead some astray, and he lays ignominy on those who disbelieve. 6:125

113.Allah will send everyone the Fire, except those he chooses to deliver. 6:128

114.Let the idolaters kill their children. It is Allah's will. 6:137

115.The worst thing anyone can do is deny the revelations of Allah. Those who do so will be awared an evil doom. 6:157  

116.How many a township have We destroyed! As a raid by night, or while they slept at noon, Our terror came unto them. 7:4-5

117.Allah banishes Iblis and promises to fill hell with those who are mislead by him. 7:18

118.Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire. 7:36

119.Entire nations have entered the Fire. Some get a double torment. 7:38

120."Taste the doom for what ye used to earn." 7:39

121.Disbelievers will be excluded from heaven. Theirs will be a bed of hell. 7:40-41

122.Those in the fire will be taunted by those in the Garden. "So how's it going down there? Are you enjoying the warmth of the Fire?" 7:44

123.Those in the Garden will plead with Allah not to be cast into the Fire. 7:47

124.Those in the Fire will cry out to those in heaven, saying: "Pour water on us." But Allah has forbidden that to disbelievers. 7:50

125.Allah drowned everyone on earth (except Noah and his family) because they disbelieved. 7:64

126.Those who believe incorrectly will face the terror and wrath of Allah. 7:71

127."We cut the root of those who denied Our revelations and were not believers." 7:72

128.Allah killed the disbelievers with an earthquake. 7:78

129.Allah killed everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah except Lot and his daughters.
7:83-84

130."So the earthquake seized them."
 Allah killed the disbelievers with an earthquake. 7:90-91

131."How can I sorrow for a people that rejected (truth)?"
 Shu'eyb tells the Allah's victims that they deserved to die for rejecting Islam. 7:93

132."Then We seized them unawares, when they perceived not."
 Unbelievers are never safe from Allah's wrath. 7:95-99

133."We straitened Pharaoh's folk with famine."
 Allah sent a famine on all of the Egyptians to punish Pharaoh. 7:130

134."So We sent against them the flood and the locusts and the vermin and the frogs and the blood - a succession of clear signs." 7:133

135."We drowned them in the sea: because they denied Our revelations." 7:136

136.Those who worship the calf will suffer terror and humiliation from Allah. 7:152

137."But those of them who ... changed the word ... We sent down upon them wrath from heaven." 7:162

138."Why preach ye to a folk whom Allah is about to destroy or punish with an awful doom?" 7:164

139."When they forgot that whereof they had been reminded, We ... visited [them] with dreadful punishment." 7:165

140.Allah will punish the disbelieving Jews until the Day of Resurrection. 7:167

141.Allah has already sent many people and jinn to hell. They were worse than cows: they couldn't see or hear and were neglectful. 7:179  

142."Allah ... cut the root of the disbelievers."
 Allah destroyed the unbelievers. 8:7

143.Allah will throw fear into the hearts of the disbelievers, and smite their necks and fingers. 8:12

144.Disbelievers will be tormented in the Fire. 8:14

145.When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell. 8:15-16

146.Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 8:17

147.Taste of the doom because ye disbelieve. 8:35

148.Those who disbelieve will be gathered into hell. 8:36

149."The wicked will He place piece upon piece, and heap them all together, and consign them unto hell." 8:37

150.Those that live or die in war are a clear proof of Allah's sovereignty. 8:31

151.The angels smite the face and backs of disbelievers, saying: "Taste the punishment of burning!" 8:50

152.Don't let the disbelievers think they can escape. They are your enemy and the enemy of Allah. 8:59-60

153.Had it not been for an ordinance of Allah which had gone before, an awful doom had come upon you." 8:68

154.He [Allah] gave thee [Muhammad] power over them."
 Allah gave Muhammad slaves as war booty. 8:70-1  

155.Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve. 9:3

156.Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. 9:5

157.Don't let idolaters tend the sanctuaries. Their works are in vain and they will be burned in the Fire. 9:17

158."Count ye the slaking of a pilgrim's thirst ... as (equal to the worth of) him who believeth in Allah and the Last Day, and striveth in the way of Allah?"
 Helping the poor is not as important as believing in Islam and fighting in holy wars. 9:19

159.Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis. 9:34

160.Those who are tormented in the Fire will have their foreheads and backs branded. 9:35

161.If you refuse to fight, Allah will afflict you with a painful doom. 9:39

162.Disbelievers go to hell. 9:49

163."Allah will afflict you with a doom from Him or at our hands." 9:52

164.Those who vex the Prophet, for them there is a painful doom. 9:60

165.Those who oppose Allah and His messenger will burn in the fire of hell. 9:63

166.Allah promises hypocrites and disbelievers the fire of hell. Allah curses them. They will have a lasting torment. 9:68

167.Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway. 9:73

168.Allah will afflict disbelievers with a painful doom in this world and the Hereafter. 9:74

169."Theirs will be a painful doom." 9:79

170.Those who refuse to give their wealth and lives to Allah will face the fire of hell. 9:81-83

171.For disbelievers there will be a painful doom. 9:90

172.Non-muslim who pretend to believe (so they won't be killed by Muslims) are unclean and will go to hell. 9:95

173.The unbelieving Arabs will be punished by Allah with an evil fortune. 9:97-98

174."We shall chastise them twice; then they will be relegated to a painful doom." 9:101

175.Those that ignore Allah will be thown into the fire of hell. 9:109

176.Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed , and are bound to do so by the Torah, Gospel, and Quran. But Allah will reward them for it. 9:111

177.Don't pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. 9:113

178.Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123  

179.Disbelievers will have a boiling drink and a painful doom. 10:4

180.If you enjoy life and ignore Muhammad's bullshit, Allah will torture you forever in the Fire after you die. 10:7-8

181.Allah has destroyed entire generations. 10:13

182."Ignominy overtaketh them - They have no protector from Allah - as if their faces had been covered with a cloak of darkest night. Such are rightful owners of the Fire." 10:27

183.On the last day Allah will kill all the disbelievers (and then he will torture them forever in hell). 10:45

184."His doom cometh unto you as a raid by night." 10:50

185.The damned will feel remorse for what they have done, but it will not save them from the doom that Allah has prepared. 10:54

186.Those who disbelieved will face a dreadful doom. 10:70

187.Allah drowned those who disbelieved his revelations. 10:73

188.Moses asked Allah to harden the hearts of the Egyptians so that they would not believe until they saw the painful doom. 10:88

189.If you deny the revelations of Allah, you will be among the losers and will "see the painful doom." 10:95-97  

190."The doom cannot be averted from them, and that which they derided will surround them." 11:8

191.Allah sent a lasting doom on those who mocked Noah. 11:39

192.Allah will send a painful doom on several nations. 11:48

193."Lo! there cometh unto them a doom which cannot be repelled." 11:76

194.Allah killed everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah by dropping burning stones on them. 11:82-83

195.Lo! Is fear for you the doom of a besetting Day." 11:84

196."Ye will soon know on whom there cometh a doom that will abase him." 11:93

197."He ... will lead them to the Fire for watering-place." 11:98

198."The doom of the Hereafter" 11:103

199.Those in the Fire will suffer as long as the heavens and earth endure. 11:106-7

200."Incline not toward those who do wrong lest the Fire touch you." 11:113

201.Allah will fill hell with humans and jinn. 11:119  

202.Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire 13:5

203.Those who do not answer Allah's call will go to hell. 13:18

204.Allah leads disbelievers astry while he torments them in this life. Then afterh they die, he makes them uffer even more pain in the doom of the Hereafter. 13:33-34

205.The reward for disbelievers is the Fire. 13:35

206."When Allah doometh there is none that can postpone His doom." 13:41  

207.Woe unto the disbelievers. Theirs will be an awful doom. 14:2

208.Those who are in hell will be forced to drink festering water which they can hardly swallow. They will want to die, but they will not be able to. Theirs is a harsh doom. 14:16-17

209.There is no escape from Allah's doom. 14:21

210."Lo! for wrong-doers is a painful doom." 14:22

211.Allah leads wrong-doers astray and then sends them to hell. 14:27-29

212."They set up rivals to Allah that they may mislead (men) from His way. Say: Enjoy life (while ye may) for lo! your journey's end will be the Fire." 14:30

213."Warn mankind of a day when the doom will come upon them." 14:44

214.Those in hell will be chained together. Their clothing will be made of pitch and fire will cover their faces. 14:49-50  

215.Iblis will lead humans astray. Only perfect Muslims will be safe from him. The rest will go to hell. 15:39-43

216.Allah's doom is a dolorous doom. 15:50  

217.Allah made a roof fall in to kill unbelievers. "And the doom came on them whence they knew not." 16:26

218.Disbelievers are evil and will dwell in hell forever. 16:27-29

219.Allah "will cause the earth to swallow" those who plan ill-deeds. the doom will come on them when they least expect it. 16:45

220.Theirs will be the Fire, and they will be abandoned." 16:62

221."Theirs will be a painful doom." 16:63

222."The Hour of Doom is but a twinkling of the eye." 16:77

223."When those who did wrong behold the doom, it will not be made light for them." 16:85

224.Allah will add doom to doom for those who disbelieve. 16:88

225.Those who oppose Islam will face an awful doom. 16:94

226.Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 16:104

227.Those who loose their faith in Islam will face an awful doom. Allah's wrath is upon them. 16:106

228.Those who invent lies against Allah will have a painful doom. 16:116-7  

229.Allah made hell to be a dungeon for disbelievers. 17:8

230.Allah has prepared a painful doom for those who disbelieve in the Hereafter. 17:10

231.Allah destroyed entire towns. 17:16

232.How many generations Allah has destroyed since Noah! 17:17

233.Allah intends to burn people in hell. 17:18

234."Set not up with Allah any other god, lest thou be cast into hell." 17:39

235."Lo! the doom of thy Lord is to be shunned." 17:57

236.Allah will destroy every town before the Day of Resurrection. 17:58

237.Whoever follows Iblis will be cast into hell. 17:63

238."Whoso is blind here will be blind in the Hereafter, and yet further from the road." 17:72

239.Allah will send disbelievers astray. Then he'll burn them in hell, increasing the flames from time to time. 17:97-98  

240.Allah has prepared a Fire for the disbelievers. When they want a shower, Allah will give them a shower of molten lead to burn their faces. 18:29

241.Christians will cry out to Allah's "partners", but they won't hear them; Allah will send them to their doom. 18:52

242.Those who are condemned to the Fire know they will have no way to escape. 18:53

243.Nothing prevents non-muslims from believing in Islam. So it's their own fault when they are sent to their doom. 18:55

244.There is an appointed time in which the doomed will find no escape. 18:58

245.Allah has destroyed many towns. 18:59

246.On a certain day, Allah will present hell, in plain view, to the disbelievers. 18:100

247.Allah will welcome the disbelievers into hell. 18:102

248.The good works of disbelievers are all in vain. They will go to hell anyway. 18:104-105

249.Hell is the reward for disbelievers because they made a jest of Allah's revelations and messengers. 18:106  

250."Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day."
 Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell. 19:35-37

251.Allah will pluck out from every sect those who should burn in hell. 19:69-70

252."How many a generation have We destroyed before them?"
 Allah brags about destroying entire generations. 19:74

253.Allah will prolong the lives of non-believers so they can see their punishment, either in this world or in the Hour of doom. 19:75

254.Allah will record what disbelievers say and then prolong their torment. 19:77-79

255.Allah has sent the devils on the disbelievers to confuse them. 19:83

256.Allah will "drive the guilty unto hell, a weary herd." 19:86

257.Allah has destroyed many generations. 19:98  

258.Allah destroyed entire towns, yet the people still disbelieved. 20:6

259.The people cried out for mercy, but Allah killed them anyway. 20:15

260.Lo! it hath been revealed unto us that the doom will be for him who denieth and turneth away." 20:48

261."There [in hell] he will neither die nor live." 20:74

262.Those who do not believe Allah's revelations will face doom in the Hereafter. 20:127

263.Allah has destroyed many generations. 20:128  

264.Allah destroyed entire towns, yet the people still disbelieved. 21:6

265."And one of them who should say: Lo! I am a god beside Him, that one We should repay with hell." 21:29

266.Disbelievers will not be able to put out the fire on their faces and backs. They will be stupefied and no one will help them. 21:39-40

267."Fear the Lord ... and dread the Hour of doom." 21:49

268.Every person alive at the time of the flood was evil. So Allah drowned them all. 21:77

269.The disbelievers will stare in terror at what Allah has in store for them. 21:97-99  

270.Fear your Lord. Lo! the earthquake of the Hour (of Doom)."
 Earquakes are sent by Allah to terrorize and kill people. 22:1

271."Every nursing mother will forget her nursling and every pregnant one will be delivered of her burden and thou (Muhammad) wilt see mankind as drunken, yet they will not be drunken, but the Doom of Allah will be strong (upon them)."
 When the doom of Allah comes, pregnant women will suffer miscarriages, and men will act like they are drunk. 22:2

272."Among mankind is he who disputeth concerning Allah without knowledge, and followeth each froward devil will mislead him and will guide him to the punishment of the Flame."
 The devil will guide some to the punishment of the Flame.22:3-4

273."He who disputeth concerning Allah without knowledge or guidance or a scripture giving light, Turning away in pride to beguile (men) from the way of Allah. For him in this world is ignominy, and on the Day of Resurrection We make him taste the doom of burning."
 Those who turn from the way of Allah will face ignominy in this world and the doom of burning in the next. 22:8-9

274.Whoever thinks that Allah will not give Muhammad victory should go hang himself. 22:15

275."There are many unto whom the doom is justly due. Allah doeth what he will." 22:18

276.Disbelievers will wear garments of fire, boiling fluid will be poured on their heads, their bellies and skin will be melted, they will be tormented with iron hooks, and when they try to escape they will be driven back with the taunt: Taste the doom of burning. 22:19-22

277.Allah will provide the disbelievers with a painful doom. 22:25

278.How many towns Allah has destroyed! 22:45

279."They will bid thee hasten on the Doom." 22:47

280.Those who disregard Allah's revelations are the owners of the Fire. 22:51

281."Those who disbelieve will not cease to be in doubt thereof until the Hour come upon them unawares, or there come unto them the doom of a disastrous day." 22:55

282.Those who disbelieve Allah's revelations will have a shameful doom. 22:57

283.Those who disbelieve Allah's revelations will burn in the Fire. 22:72  

284.Allah told Noah not to bother pleading for the people he was about to drown. 23:27

285.Those who don't believe in the Hereafter will receive extreme punishment from Allah. 23:74-77

286."Those whose scales are light are those who lose their souls, in hell abiding." 23:103

287.When fire burns their faces, they will be glum. 23:104  

288.Scourge adulterers and adulteresses with 100 stripes. Do not show them any pity. Have a party of believers watch the punishment. 24:2

289.Those who spread slander will face an awful doom. 24:11

290.Those who murmur will face an awful doom. 24:14

291.Those who traduce virtuous, believing women ... cursed are they in the world and the Hereafter. Theirs will be an awful doom." 24:23

292.Disbelievers will never escape the Fire that will be their home. 24:57  

293.Those who deny the coming of the Hour will be chained together and burned with fire. They will pray for their own destruction. 25:11-13

294.Allah will force the evil-doers to taste great torment. 25:19

295.It will be a hard day for disbelievers and wrong-doers. They will gnaw on their hands and wish they had chosen Islam. 25:26-27

296."Those who will be gathered on their faces unto hell" 25:34

297.Those who deny Muhammad's revelations will be destroyed. 25:36

298.Allah drowned everyone in the flood of Noah, and has prepared a painful doom for evil-doers. 25:37

299."They [the non-muslims] will know, when they behold the doom, who is more astray as to the road." 25:42

300."The doom of hell; lo! the doom thereof is anguish." 25:65

301.Those who cry out to another god with Allah will be tormented doubly in hell. 25:68-69  

And it keeps going!  [-X  :P  :twisted:  Solitary

lol of course i'm being disingenuous (in some context of the word), but not to the point where i believe anyone is unequal. In the end, the scales will be weighed. How is coming to the aid of those communities around you "disingeuous". In fact, its more honest than dishonest. Of the living book:

O kings of the earth! The Most Great Law hath been revealed in this Spot, this scene of transcendent splendour. Every hidden thing hath been brought to light by virtue of the Will of the Supreme Ordainer, He Who hath ushered in the Last Hour, through Whom the Moon hath been cleft, and every irrevocable decree expounded.
Ye are but vassals, O kings of the earth! He Who is the King of Kings hath appeared, arrayed in His most wondrous glory, and is summoning you unto Himself, the Help in Peril, the Self-Subsisting. Take heed lest pride deter you from recognizing the Source of Revelation, lest the things of this world shut you out as by a veil from Him Who is the Creator of Heaven. Arise, and serve Him Who is the Desire of all nations, Who hath created you through a word from Him, and ordained you to be, for all time, the emblems of His sovereignty.

^Basically what i'm trying to say, but with more swiftness. We are emblems of his sovereignty (his freewill, like i said)

Also you brought in many quotes relating to fear. The Quran was written as a just guideline. It contains verses of fear, and verses of love. All the verses are outweighed by another. The Quran is like a lock to a door. You have to picklock it to open the door, but many just give up. No one is greater than another. We all striving for the same goal. Some are closer than others, but are still on equal footing.
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Hijiri Byakuren

Damn it, Solitary, I've been waiting this whole time to use the Skeptic's Annotated Quran on someone, and here you go stealing my thunder! DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
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Icarus

Quote from: "MitchellDaBomb"You really think its worth an Omnipotent God's time to come down to earth only to be rejected once he leaves? He's already demonstrated his unity on earth and in space. Quintessences of dark matter constantly expand the universe to his name, and you deny that there is a power creating that space? He already has established his eternal word on the planet. Go read the Book of Certitude. Its filled with eternal knowledge. The book has always been on the planet. And what makes you think that Muhammad was exempt from worldly affairs? Do the actions of Muhammad represent god? No. Only his words do. Muhammad was human like us. This delusional faith leads to clarity of thought and action, assurance in the hereafter, and offers a plethora of knowledge. What more could mankind want?

Pretty sure an omnipotent god wouldn't be subject to a petty thing like time. You've basically stated he is able to do anything, yet is a slave to a clock. Bravo.

aitm

QuoteThe Quran is like a lock to a door. You have to picklock it to open the door, but many just give up

because you know, the great wise all knowing that he is, he just can't make it easy to understand, he has to make it a fuckin puzzle for the few while he purposely condemns millions of innocents to hell for the sheer fun of it. Fuck that piece of shit!
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

MitchellDaBomb

Lol this skeptics annotated Quran is horribly bias. Each verse has an ambiguous meaning. He is simply pointing out a one-sided perspective (Since the book can be read multiple ways depending on the reader)

To aitm,
Does god condemn people to hell? Or do they condemn themselves?
Can you really blame god for humanities problems? No. We choose our own paths and destinies. Stop trying to ascribe all of humanities chosen actions to god. The only things that god has affected in this world are his most recent holy books, the Kitab-I-Iqan and Kitab-I-Aqdas.
God makes it easy to those who desire him.
 
If you'd like i could breakdown every statement from the skeptics annotated Quran.
I'm pretty busy mastering my music atm...but id be glad to explain any of them.
For example number 5 is stating that Allah cannot have a son because there is no equal to him, not that he cannot do anything.
Number 10 is saying to spend in the way off Allah because money doesn't have any value in the afterlife...so the fee is the same as giving freely.
In number 2, notice how Allah says "Strong drink" for the alcohol one..meaning that alcohol has good and bad effects depending on how drunk you are.
I could go on and on about the invalidity of the skeptics statements. They are simply looking at the verses from a negative perspective, attempting to point out holes that don't exist. That is because they want to rationalize their beliefs, like all humans do. How can we rationalize a world that is irrational by nature? Things don't always happen according to laws. Sometimes it baffles us. There are irregularities all the time.
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aitm

Quote from: "MitchellDaBomb"To aitm,
Does god condemn people to hell? .

go back and read 1,2 4 and 6, your piece of shit god supposedly makes people non-believers so he can watch and enjoy human suffering. Fuck your piece of shit god

QuoteSince the book can be read multiple ways depending on the reader

but of course, because your piece of shit god doesn't care if someone believes or not so long as he can laugh and enjoy their misery. That you find this piece of shit god worth worshipping can only mean that you agree with what he does, therefore you as well enjoy watching other people suffer and writhe in pain, thus you too are a piece of shit.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

MitchellDaBomb

Quote from: "aitm"
Quote from: "MitchellDaBomb"To aitm,
Does god condemn people to hell? .

go back and read 1,2 4 and 6, your piece of shit god supposedly makes people non-believers so he can watch and enjoy human suffering. Fuck your piece of shit god

QuoteSince the book can be read multiple ways depending on the reader

but of course, because your piece of shit god doesn't care if someone believes or not so long as he can laugh and enjoy their misery. That you find this piece of shit god worth worshipping can only mean that you agree with what he does, therefore you as well enjoy watching other people suffer and writhe in pain, thus you too are a piece of shit.

Anger only clouds judgement.

1. You say god makes people nonbelievers? You're a nonbeliever yourself. Did you or god make that decision? You did.

2. The only misery you find is the misery you bring to yourself. Like i said, god doesn't affect this earthly plane (except for his books). Would god even take the time to put books into this world if he didn't care? He just wants us to find our own paths without his divine assistance.
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aitm

LOL look at how quickly you try to divert from the fact that your god tells you he makes people non-believers so he can enjoy watching them suffer. You just turn the other way like it's not the truth.....lalallalalla oh look a butterfly...ain't god grand...lalalalallalalal what a twit.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

MitchellDaBomb

Quote from: "aitm"LOL look at how quickly you try to divert from the fact that your god tells you he makes people non-believers so he can enjoy watching them suffer. You just turn the other way like it's not the truth.....lalallalalla oh look a butterfly...ain't god grand...lalalalallalalal what a twit.

he lets them make themselves nonbelievers. if freewill is his will (like i stated), then by you using your will to disbelieve, he is making you disbelieve. idle contentions won't divert truth.
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aitm

Quote.Don't bother warning the disbelievers. Allah has made it impossible for them to believe so that he can torture them forever after they die. 2:6-7
Yeah, that looks like free will there dippy. Keep going....lalalalalallala oh look a butterfly ain't god grand lalalalalalala
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

The Skeletal Atheist

Every verse has an ambiguous meaning?


What kind of asshole god would commission a book with ambiguous meanings so that people who don't quite get it are doomed to hell? :-k
Some people need to be beaten with a smart stick.

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PickelledEggs

Quote from: "MitchellDaBomb"
Quote from: "aitm"LOL look at how quickly you try to divert from the fact that your god tells you he makes people non-believers so he can enjoy watching them suffer. You just turn the other way like it's not the truth.....lalallalalla oh look a butterfly...ain't god grand...lalalalallalalal what a twit.

he lets them make themselves nonbelievers. if freewill is his will (like i stated), then by you using your will to disbelieve, he is making you disbelieve. idle contentions won't divert truth.

AllPurposeAtheist

GOD commands you to be happy with suffering,  pain and torture because after all,  it's just a test...of the Emergency Believers Network.  If this were an actual emergency you would be instructed to kill anyone who disagrees with you.
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