With debates gone MR can come back

[the_antithesis]

Imagination land , i would say, is in the belief in an infinite number of universes, where everyone registered on this forum is holding hands and randomly together in unison reciting the entire works of Shakespeare in unison by guessing randomly at words.

The probability of something that has already occurred happening is 100%, so your analogy is silly and also dishonest.

Do please answer my previous questions or you shall be marked a liar.

[GurrenLagann]

MR, I'm willing to debate you on the existence of God ("Does God Exist?") in the debate forum. We'll need someone to propose a structure to how the debate will work though (anyone?). With just you and I interacting, you'll have the capability to concentrate and respond properly.

Accept? Deny?

[Krisyork2008]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTn7xtVs ... ata_player

Thought it'd fit nicely.

[mendacium remedium]

MR, I'm willing to debate you on the existence of God ("Does God Exist?") in the debate forum. We'll need someone to propose a structure to how the debate will work though (anyone?). With just you and I interacting, you'll have the capability to concentrate and respond properly.

Accept? Deny?

I do not mind debating you, but i have made a promise to Benny Boy to debate him first. After that, if we are both ready, i will debate you after.

[mendacium remedium]

Neccesary within the context of our dialouge means a form of existence which must exist by neccesity of it's own existence - or nothing would exist.

Nonsense.

Not at all. Whether you are an atheist or a theist, there has always had to have been something which exists, as a necessity of it's own existence - otherwise you would have no existence. Something , if we can define it as that, has always had to exist anyway.

Otherwise every single form of existence would be contingent - it would have no meaning or reason to exist.

[mendacium remedium]

Imagination land , i would say, is in the belief in an infinite number of universes, where everyone registered on this forum is holding hands and randomly together in unison reciting the entire works of Shakespeare in unison by guessing randomly at words.

The probability of something that has already occurred happening is 100%, so your analogy is silly and also dishonest.

Do please answer my previous questions or you shall be marked a liar.

Precisely the paradox of the multi-verse theory. If there truly are an infinite number of universes, everything that will ever happen has happened an infinite number of times - as if an infinite can be eclipsed?

Yet, there are still things 'yet' to happen.

When one believes in a physical existence which is infinite, it brings up paradoxes.

It is less about us trying to get it into our minds , and more about it abusing the very foundations of logic by which we make these statements in the first place.

[mendacium remedium]

Imagination land , i would say, is in the belief in an infinite number of universes, where everyone registered on this forum is holding hands and randomly together in unison reciting the entire works of Shakespeare in unison by guessing randomly at words.

And yet it has more evidentitary support than your nonsense.

There is a universe where you are the theist, and i am the atheist, typing the exact same words and both simultaneously singing "thriller" to our pet monkey.

It gets even more ridiculous.

[the_antithesis]

what does non-physical even mean and how does the non physical interact with the physical?

[leo]

MR, I'm willing to debate you on the existence of God ("Does God Exist?") in the debate forum. We'll need someone to propose a structure to how the debate will work though (anyone?). With just you and I interacting, you'll have the capability to concentrate and respond properly.

Accept? Deny?

I do not mind debating you, but i have made a promise to Benny Boy to debate him first. After that, if we are both ready, i will debate you after.

You will not debate anyone . Liar .

[GurrenLagann]

Well, let's see what happens before calling him a liar guys. :O

[Hakurei Reimu]

There is a universe where you are the theist, and i am the atheist, typing the exact same words and both simultaneously singing "thriller" to our pet monkey.

It gets even more ridiculous.

The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you. This is doubly true if you are not willing to do the work to understand logic, mathematics and science. This is part of your problem.

[mendacium remedium]

There is a universe where you are the theist, and i am the atheist, typing the exact same words and both simultaneously singing "thriller" to our pet monkey.

It gets even more ridiculous.

The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you. This is doubly true if you are not willing to do the work to understand logic, mathematics and science. This is part of your problem.

The problem is, logic, mathematics, and science are restricted to our experiences in this universe , something you have constantly been telling me can be abandoned for the universe as a whole.

No one denies logic, maths, and science, what is denied is the belief there is a universe where a monkey is responding to you, and i am in unison shouting out random words which coincidentally are the exact same as your last five hundred forum posts.

I will begin my refutation on the multi-verse soon however.

[Hakurei Reimu]

The problem is, logic, mathematics, and science are restricted to our experiences in this universe , something you have constantly been telling me can be abandoned for the universe as a whole.

If this is what you thought I've said ("consistently"?), then you need to re-read our conversations, boyo. In particular, science is not restricted to your experiences. It also has access to our observations and experiments through enhanced senses — instruments. It is exactly these instruments that reveal that radioactive atoms are not caused to decay as such; they have a propensity of decay in any given time interval.

You have consistently shown that you don't have the background to argue effectively for your case.

No one denies logic, maths, and science, what is denied is the belief there is a universe where a monkey is responding to you,

You're responding to me, aren't you? Oh, you mean a non-intelligent, tailed simian? Well, champ, what makes you think that another universe would have an evolutionary history exactly the same as ours as to not produce two intelligent primate species, one of whom is a tailed primate — a monkey?

and i am in unison shouting out random words which coincidentally are the exact same as your last five hundred forum posts.

Well, those words won't be random to us, boyo. The only thing random would be the stuff that gave me the misfortune to live your life and you the good fortune to have my upbringing.

I will begin my refutation on the multi-verse soon however.

Oh, you're going to refute it, whereas the best minds in physics have been unable to do so (merely arguing that there's no evidence for such)? Yeah, I've heard that before, but you consistently fail to actually demonstrate such a feat.

[GurrenLagann]

To add to Hakurei's post, mathematics is DEFINITELY not restricted to your sense experience. There are things in mathematics with no apparent correspondence to any know thing in Nature, and thus cannot be experienced.

[Hydra009]

Well, let's see what happens before calling him a liar guys. :O

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and it's already been a couple months and still a no-show at the debate hall...