Is Freefall Proof of Controlled Demolition?

[AllPurposeAtheist]

It took that long to figure out his tin hattedness? Amazing.  :-k

[The Skeletal Atheist]

It took that long to figure out his tin hattedness? Amazing.  :-k

We realized it, we just like things to kick around. I'm sure there's more derp coming. Hopefully he/she'll go full potato now.

[stromboli]

The people that went through the debris at ground zero were firefighters. I can guarantee you, after losing 343 of their brothers on 9/11, they were definitely interested in what was in the debris. There were also many fire investigators involved. Firefighters and inspectors know what to look for and what is out of place and wrong, and in any purposeful arson or demolition there would be a massive pile of "wrong." And if such evidence had been found, the outrage by them alone would be more than any conspiracy theory that came later.

[Cocoa Beware]

Nano-thermite explosives shown above were gathered from the WTC debris shortly after the towers fell on 9/11. Brigham Young University Physics Professor, Dr. Steven Jones, discovered the explosives and joined an international team of nine scientists for further analysis. Through extensive laboratory testing, the scientists concluded that the samples were Nano-thermitic explosives.

Im familiar with this story. Jones wrote a paper on this phenomenon which resulted in a more or less permanent suspension from BYU.

Why? Because he doesn't have a degree in architecture, engineering, combustion engineering or anything like that. Its a complete waste of time for him to write a paper on the subject.

Its even more of a waste of time for the scientific community to attempt to verify such a paper. To do so impedes scientific progress.

Jones also wrote a paper about how Jesus visited the indigenous people of North America. Do you believe that one too?

[Jason78]

So, in conclusion:

Is Freefall Proof of Controlled Demolition?

No.  And from the evidence presented, it didn't freefall.

[Insult to Rocks]

Let us hope that this is the end of all this nonesense.

[Shiranu]

Let us hope that this is the end of all this nonesense.

lulz.

[AllPurposeAtheist]

Also found, and  this is crucial was two I beams welded together among over 100 floors of welded I beams at right angles. They formed a t! What were the odds?  :shock:  Godidit.  :-$

[AtheistMoFo]

RECAP OF FIRST THREE DAYS of this thread.  There may have been additional points raised since my most recent post which may not be reflected here.

Let's take look at the major arguments so far.

The Controlled Demolition Theory camp (CDT'ers) have documented that WTC 7 did in fact fall at freefall acceleration, and insist that freefall is impossible unless all structural support is removed instantaneously across the entire building.  Freefall has been denied by some in the Official Conspiracy Theory camp (OCT'ers), ignored by others, or "Fuck NIST, they don't count."  (Noboy has suggested that Isaac Newton should be fucked, but his principles are rejected by the OCT'ers regardless.)

The CDT'ers have no documented evidence of how the explosives were smuggled into and planted inside WTC 7 and offer no plausible or even remotely possible scenario of how.

The OCT'ers have not presented any evidendence, plausible or even remotely possible, of how the hijackers smuggled box cutters past security guards at the two airports from which the planes were hijacked.  (Not relevant to the discussion, but curious to note that security at both airports was managed by an israeli company.  But please disregard, as it is irrelevant and racist.)

The OCT'ers have claimed Gozilla did it, and presented evidence consisting of still photo from a Godzilla movie (filmed in Japan).  This theory has not been refuted by CDT'ers and remains open to further discussion.

OCT'ers have claimed there was jet fuel in WTC 7, but presented no hard evidence, not even a possible scenario of how it got there.

OCT'ers have claimed that a fifth airplane crashed into WTC 7 (or perhaps one of the other planes crashed into two of the buildings?) but presented no documentation of this.

Other OCT'ers have presented various evidence of planes smashing into the Twin Towers and the crumbling of the towers, but have offered no explanation of how this impacts the freefall acceleration of WTC 7.

CDT'ers have offered evidence of finding thermite as documented by a peer reviewed paper, but this has been refuted by the OCT'ers because of
1) peer reviewed papers can be faked,
2) none of the parties who found thermite work for the government, and
3) if thermite had been present it would have been found by government agents who were not looking for it.

OCT'ers have claimed that non-authenticated videos of Osama bin Laden claiming responsibility for the attack is proof of exoneration of all other suspects, but have offered no evidence or theories on how or why it automatically exonerates everyone else even if the video could be authenticated.  (Unfortunately, we can not question bin Laden himself about the "confession" because he was sentenced to summary execution before his trial.)

Although "high speed" of the jets smashing into the Twin Towers has been brought up, the approximate speed at which they were travelling at the time of impact was not estimated by either side.  Nor has there been any explanation that would tie this "fact" in with WTC 7.

Any major points I missed?

[AllPurposeAtheist]

Any major points I missed?

Other than logic and common sense you've got it covered.  =D>

[Shiranu]

They make tin-foil earmuffs so you cant hear a thing anyone else says? That's pretty niffty.

[AllPurposeAtheist]

They make tin-foil earmuffs so you cant hear a thing anyone else says? That's pretty niffty.

He's up to date. They're tin foil ear buds.  :-?

[Sargon The Grape]

They make tin-foil earmuffs so you cant hear a thing anyone else says? That's pretty niffty.

He's up to date. They're tin foil ear buds.  :-?

Those sound painful.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

They make tin-foil earmuffs so you cant hear a thing anyone else says? That's pretty niffty.

He's up to date. They're tin foil ear buds.  :-?

Those sound painful.

Just imagine how much the tin foil buttplugs hurt. Gotta have something to clog you up enough so all the shit comes outta your mouth.

[AllPurposeAtheist]

Ok, this has seemingly taken a decisively ugly turn in the dialog.  :butthead: