A fascinating (Dutch, use google translate) article

Started by Plu, October 15, 2013, 07:23:12 AM

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Plu

On perhaps the most un-American way to solve the poverty problem... giving everyone free money.
It sounds really weird, but apparently it actually works. I hope it translates well... otherwise I will try to summarize it tonight.

https://decorrespondent.nl/10/waarom-we ... eten-geven

SGOS

Sounds like trickle down economics, but you're giving the free money to a different group of people, which makes it more of a bubble up, rather than trickle down, but both infuse money into the economy, it's just that the wealthy aren't the first ones to get their hands on it.

Poison Tree

I get some kind of a non-English log-in page when I follow the link.

Some time under Bush, the government decided to try stimulating the economy by mailing out special checks/refunds (of $200, if I remember right).  But it was decided that only responsible middle-class and above people should get them--no rewarding people for choosing to be poor. As should have been expected, the responsible people largely saved the extra money or used it to pay down debt instead of spending it and stimulating the economy. My argument at the time, and still today, was that they should have given the money to college students and sat back and watched as the economy was boosted by beer and pizza sales.
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Solitary

This should help:


A crowd-funding world record in journalism


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De Correspondent was founded by Rob Wijnberg, former editor-in-chief of nrc.next, a nationally distributed daily newspaper in the Netherlands, with backing from such renowned journalists as Joris Luyendijk, of The Guardian; early praise from Alain de Botton and Jay Rosen; and in cooperation with Momkai, an Amsterdam-based, digital design agency that counts Nike, Red Bull and G-Star among its clients. De Correspondent currently has an editorial staff of eleven full-time contributing, assistant, and photo/graphic editors; a network of fifteen contributing correspondents; a subscriber base of 20,200 and counting; and a physical home in the offices of A-Lab, a former Shell laboratory on the shores of the river IJ, in Amsterdam.




 


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Colanth

Giving everyone, say, $1,000 free, will cause prices to go up almost immediately.  But the cost of living would go up more than the $1,000, so the net effect would be to harm everyone but the wealthy.

There are bookish economic rules and there are real-world economic rules, and the former only work in books, not in the real world, in which people are basically greedy.
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Plu

Quote from: "Colanth"Giving everyone, say, $1,000 free, will cause prices to go up almost immediately.  But the cost of living would go up more than the $1,000, so the net effect would be to harm everyone but the wealthy.

There are bookish economic rules and there are real-world economic rules, and the former only work in books, not in the real world, in which people are basically greedy.

And yet putting this in practice showed none of that, and instead showed all sorts of positive results. As much as I'd like to follow the theory, apparently the practice is different.

AllPurposeAtheist

I'll be more than happy to solve our economic woes. Everyone send me $1000 right away.


Don't forget. It's for your own good and the world at large. It's all about me so don't worry. You're money, soon to be mine will trickle back up. :)


There, that didn't hurt one little bit now did it? For those who refuse prepare for the economic pain soon to follow and SHAME ON YOU!
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