Liberals loooooovvvee Islam

[Hydra009]

Could you explain?

I suppose I'll have to link you to get you to take a look.   :-|

[Shiranu]

I don;t likle Islam for many reasons. the first is that they behave like the Christian right only far far worse and frankly any form of equivalence is fatous. to compare Salafists to the Westboro baptist church is a joke. Salafist crucify people, they murder and torture children, they butcher gay people, Christians,Jews and the 'wront sort of Muslims.

They do this in the U.S.? What numbers do you have of that happening in the Western world?

You are comparing "radicals" in a 1st world nation to radicals in a developing nation. It would be more fair for you to compare Salafists to Akhwat Akwop or the Africans who burn witches still. The common theme here is socio-economics, not race or religion.

If White people behaved like Muslims social democrats would hate them The reason Social democrats defend Muslims is because most of them have brown skins and their obsession with 'anti racism' blinds them to everything else.

I hate the way radical Muslims act in the West, so I guess I am racist. The thing is I don't hate every Muslim in the West and believe they are all potential terrorists who want to kill me and need to be spied on or deported simply because of their social backgrounds.

[sab]

Muslims have utterly ripped apart my motherland. We are one of the world oldest christian nations but it is suffering the very worst Islam can throw at us.

[GrinningYMIR]

You know what? I hate Muslims. I hate the way the think, the way the act, their god, and their quaran.

I know that makes me racist and I know that makes me a bigot. And I admit that propaganda might have changed me, who knows. But for years I defended them because I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt

No longer; now they are lumped up there with bible thumpers and the "you can't get pregnant from rape" guy in terms of how much I disdain them.


Take it as you like, but I needed rant for a moment

[frosty]

You know what? I hate Muslims. I hate the way the think, the way the act, their god, and their quaran.

I know that makes me racist and I know that makes me a bigot. And I admit that propaganda might have changed me, who knows. But for years I defended them because I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt

No longer; now they are lumped up there with bible thumpers and the "you can't get pregnant from rape" guy in terms of how much I disdain them.


Take it as you like, but I needed rant for a moment

You never should have had that distinction in the first place. Muslim or Christian, Hindu or Jainist, all religions delude the followers into a cult-like mentality and Muslims are not, and never were an exception to that. To be honest if a "liberal" ever thought that they were an exception to that than they might have a few screws that are loose in their heads.

[josephpalazzo]

I make it a point to differentiate the people from their religion. In my experience I've met christians, muslims, and jews who were just fine people. And I have also met atheists who were jerks. So, people come in all stripes. There are bad apples everywhere. Just beware.

[Thumpalumpacus]

It's startling how little reason is present in this thread.  Here I thought atheists were logical folk.

Stupid me, this thread is clear evidence of my error.

[frosty]

By the way, disliking Muslims is not racist because Muslims are not a race. Show me scientific evidence that Muslims constitute a biological race and I will agree with you that disliking Muslims is racist. Is it bigoted, hateful, awful, crude? Yes. Racist? Nope.

It's startling how little reason is present in this thread.  Here I thought atheists were logical folk.

Stupid me, this thread is clear evidence of my error.

It is a leap of faith in itself to assume that Atheists are logical just because they refer to themselves as Atheists. Human beings tend to hang on to any type of dogma they can, and there is no evidence to suggest that just because an Atheist sheds religious dogma they will not move on to dogma of another kind.

[sab]

edited -double post

[sab]

So Logical must mean "give special treatment to anyone who isn't white according to the ideology of multiculturalism?

I am not 'white'. I came to the UK as a refugee in the 1970s. The UK gave my mother and my family (My father was murdered by Marxists) everything. A House, money to live on, medical care, education right until the end of university and made us British citizens. I am very grateful to the British people.

Muslims arrived, live in Ghettos and hate the British. They murder their daughters if they go out with British boys (but turn a blind eye to Muslim men who rape British women). Muslims endlessly go on about Jews and how evil whites are

[sab]

This is worth reading

logs.telegraph.co.uk/news/seanthomas/100250831/laws-against-inciting-hatred-funny-how-an-islamist-hate-preacher-is-never-prosecuted/?fb

[Brian37]

By the way, disliking Muslims is not racist because Muslims are not a race. Show me scientific evidence that Muslims constitute a biological race and I will agree with you that disliking Muslims is racist. Is it bigoted, hateful, awful, crude? Yes. Racist? Nope.

It's startling how little reason is present in this thread.  Here I thought atheists were logical folk.

Stupid me, this thread is clear evidence of my error.

It is a leap of faith in itself to assume that Atheists are logical just because they refer to themselves as Atheists. Human beings tend to hang on to any type of dogma they can, and there is no evidence to suggest that just because an Atheist sheds religious dogma they will not move on to dogma of another kind.

I warn atheists all the time not to say things like "When we get into the majority we will treat you better". Evolution does not bear out any label being the inventor of morality or compassion. "Atheist" is not a moral code, it is merely the "off" position on one claim.

I have run into atheists who simply say "there is no god", but don't read Hitchens or Dawkins or know much about science. And this new trend in the UK with "atheist churches" bothers me. I do not want to see the label turned into written moral dogma.

I am fine with a natural and evolutionary and psychological view of human behavior, but I am not fine with any human claiming that a label automatically makes them immune from what our species has always done.

We are humans first and have always been capable of both compassion and cruelty.

[Jmpty]

So Logical must mean "give special treatment to anyone who isn't white according to the ideology of multiculturalism?

I am not 'white'. I came to the UK as a refugee in the 1970s. The UK gave my mother and my family (My father was murdered by Marxists) everything. A House, money to live on, medical care, education right until the end of university and made us British citizens. I am very grateful to the British people.

Muslims arrived, live in Ghettos and hate the British. They murder their daughters if they go out with British boys (but turn a blind eye to Muslim men who rape British women). Muslims endlessly go on about Jews and how evil whites are

Wow. All Muslims do that? I had no idea.

[sab]

Wow. All Muslims do that? I had no idea.

I', sure that makes you feel very clever but the reality is ..pretty much yes.

When I say Muslims I don;t mean 'people of descent from Muslim countries I mean people  who profess Islam. In a recent poll in the UK every Muslim said they thought that Homosexuality was morally wrong. Yes I am sure that you could find Muslims who claim to beleive othewrise -especially if they are politicians but as a Group Muslims in the Uk are a backwards oppressive force.

I am from a Christian background but I am certainly not a Christian.

[Mister Agenda]

It's startling how little reason is present in this thread.  Here I thought atheists were logical folk.

Stupid me, this thread is clear evidence of my error.

More like evidence that you are not immune to making the same sort of error when the topic is atheists. You've had your stereotype of us dinged and now you're mad because we didn't all match your expectations. I hesitate to presume the irony is unconscious?