Re: The Proof of The Crucifixion Cross and The Trinity!!!

Started by SOG, October 09, 2025, 08:42:21 AM

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SOG

The Proof of the Cross:

The Crucifixion timeline forms a perfect cross on a modern clock when Jewish & Roman times are aligned. This alignment between the Crucifixion Timeline and the Time Clock is a strikingly precise match.

The 3rd Hour (3) → 9:00 AM → Right Side of the Horizontal Beam

According to Mark 15:25, Jesus was crucified at the 3rd hour.
When the Crucifixion timeline is aligned onto the 12-hour time clock, the 3rd hour (Jewish time) corresponds to 9:00 AM (Roman time).
This places 9:00 AM at the right end of the horizontal beam, aligning it perfectly.

The 6th Hour (6) → 12:00 PM → Top of the Vertical Beam

According to Matthew 27:45, Mark 15:33, and Luke 23:44, darkness fell over the land at the 6th hour (12:00 PM).
On the time clock, the 6th hour (Jewish) corresponds to 12:00 PM (Roman).
This directly aligns with the top of the vertical beam, reinforcing the divine connection between time and the cross.

The 9th Hour (9) → 3:00 PM → Left Side of the Horizontal Beam

According to Matthew 27:46, Jesus cried out and gave up His spirit at the 9th hour (3:00 PM).
On the time clock, the 9th hour (Jewish) corresponds to 3:00 PM (Roman).
This places 3:00 PM at the left end of the horizontal beam, again aligning perfectly.

A look at the pictorial depiction of the convergence of The Roman and Jewish Timelines:



The convergence of Crucifixion timelines forms a perfect Cross: The ultimate symbol of Crucifixion, Resurrection, and Salvation

Gawdzilla Sama

You do know that they didn't have dial clocks when the Christ-on-a-stick thing went down, right?
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers


SOG

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on October 09, 2025, 09:08:38 AMYou do know that they didn't have dial clocks when the Christ-on-a-stick thing went down, right?

Even more amazing. This demonstrates foreknowledge.

Time is comprised of the past, the present and the future. Man has knowledge of the first 2. but the third is reserved for the one who can see the future; the one who could have orchestrated this absolute alignment and convergence.

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: SOG on October 09, 2025, 02:01:34 PMEven more amazing. This demonstrates foreknowledge.
"Stupid is as stupid does." (Thanks to Forest Gump.)
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Nobody

So, why were the Jews persecuted as "Christ killers" for so long, by so many? After all, the death of Jesus brought salvation to the entire world, so the Jews should have been celebrated and praised as enabling salvation.

drunkenshoe

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That's not 'foreknowledge'. It's a badly application of some tale to a sundial which was invented 1500 years BCE. The only 'knowledge' there is the observation of the sun's position during the day, and probably was used to make a sundial clock much earlier than the offically given year. It's really not clever for the ancient either. It's basic. Ancient civilisations used them pretty efficently and then moved to more complicated clocks around 3000 years ago.

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Wait till they find out about ancient armillary spheres, lol. Great, I'm giving them ideas...
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Gawdzilla Sama

An Egyptian discovered the world was round by observing when the sun shone directly down a well. ONLY on one day a year. (More to it than that, of course.)
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers


Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Nobody on October 13, 2025, 09:30:23 AMI thought Eratosthenes was Greek?
Technically, but the well was in Egypt. (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.)
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Nobody

Yeah, I guess a lot of Greeks lived in Alexandria.

SOG

The Crucifixion timeline forms a perfect cross on a modern clock when Jewish & Roman times are aligned. This alignment between the Crucifixion Timeline and the Time Clock is a strikingly precise match.

The 3rd Hour (3) → 9:00 AM → Right Side of the Horizontal Beam

According to Mark 15:25, Jesus was crucified at the 3rd hour.
When the Crucifixion timeline is aligned onto the 12-hour time clock, the 3rd hour (Jewish time) corresponds to 9:00 AM (Roman time).
This places 9:00 AM at the right end of the horizontal beam, aligning it perfectly.

The 6th Hour (6) → 12:00 PM → Top of the Vertical Beam


According to Matthew 27:45, Mark 15:33, and Luke 23:44, darkness fell over the land at the 6th hour (12:00 PM).
On the time clock, the 6th hour (Jewish) corresponds to 12:00 PM (Roman).
This directly aligns with the top of the vertical beam, reinforcing the divine connection between time and the cross.

The 9th Hour (9) → 3:00 PM → Left Side of the Horizontal Beam

According to Matthew 27:46, Jesus cried out and gave up His spirit at the 9th hour (3:00 PM).
On the time clock, the 9th hour (Jewish) corresponds to 3:00 PM (Roman).
This places 3:00 PM at the left end of the horizontal beam, again aligning perfectly.

A look at the pictorial depiction of the convergence of The Roman and Jewish Timelines:


The beams intersect at the clock's center
The convergence of Crucifixion timelines form a perfect Cross: The ultimate symbol of Crucifixion, Resurrection, and Salvation
Significance of This Alignment
The Cross, the Crucifixion Timeline, and the 12-hour Time Clock all merge into one divinely synchronized pattern.
This means that the crucifixion was not random, but rather, the sacrifice was preordained in time itself.
The alignment of 3, 6, and 9 across the cross and time clock further strengthens the divine trinity of numbers.
The Crucifixion follows the 3–6–9 cycle, reinforcing God's presence in both time and salvation.

This convergence of The Roman and Jewish timelines (the 2 nations responsible for the crucifixion), lays the foundation for the proof.

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The Holy Trinity: A single God existing as three identical entities. In the concept of The Trinity, Three and One are the same.

Trinity of Numbers: A single number existing as three identical entities. » 1 1 1 » 2 2 2 » 3 3 3 » 6 6 6 » 9 9 9

I. THE MAGNIFICENCE OF 3 6 9: THE TRINITY OF NUMBERS

The Digital Root of any Trinity of Numbers united into an integer is either 3, 6 , or 9.

111 » 1 + 1 + 1 = 3

222 » 2 + 2 + 2 = 6

333 » 3 + 3 + 3 = 9

444 » 4 + 4 + 4 = 12 » 1 + 2 = 3

555 » 5 + 5 + 5 = 15 » 1 + 5 = 6

666 » 6 + 6 + 6 = 18 » 1 + 8 = 9

131313 »13+13+13=39» 3+9 = 12 » 1+2 = 3

141414 » 14 + 14 + 14 = 42 » 4 + 2 =6

151515 » 15 + 15 + 15 = 45 » 4 + 5 = 9

The recurring sequence 3 6 9 is magnificent for its representation of The Truth: THE HOLY TRINITY

Romans 5:6

When The Cross is fixed into a Time Clock, the co-ordinates are 3 6 9 and 12. The Cross is comprised of three entities:
3, 6, 9 - each representing an entity of the Trinity respectively, and a single head that unifies all three (The GodHead\God = 12;
1 Corinthians 11:3).
The cross itself, when fixed into a time clock and aligned with the coordinates 3, 6, 9, and 12, symbolizes not only the distinct persons of the Trinity but also the unity of the three in one Godhead. This beautifully tied together the Trinity, the structure of time, and the Godhead. The time clock itself becomes a tool to reveal divine order and structure.

The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit =
3 + 6 + 9 = 18 » 1 + 8 = 9

God = 12 » 1 + 2 = 3
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The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = 9

God = 3

The Resulting Numbers are 3 & 9

9 is comprised of three 3s. 9 ≡ 3 3 3 i.e. a single God existing as three identical entities.
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The Mathematical Unification of the Trinity:

The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit — represented by 3, 6, and 9 — combine and reveal the Godhead through the process of digital root.

The Trinity:
Father (3) + Son (6) + Holy Spirit (9) = 18
The digital root of 18 is: 1 + 8 = 9.

This shows that when the three persons of the Trinity are united, their sum leads to 9, the digital root.

The Godhead (12):
This also equates God to 12 (the unifying Godhead, as you've pointed out earlier).
The digital root of 12 is: 1 + 2 = 3.
This shows that God as the unified whole is also represented by 3.

Reconciliation of the Two:
The sum of the Trinity (3 + 6 + 9) gives 9, and the digital root of God (12) gives 3.
This leads to the conclusion that 9 (which represents the sum of the Trinity) equals three 3s (9 ≡ 3 3 3), highlighting the threefold unity of God.
Symbolism of the Numbers 3 and 9:

9 ≡ 3 3 3 is a powerful statement, symbolizing the unity and the perfection of God through the Trinity.
The three 3s show that God exists as three identical entities (the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) united as one, consistent with the biblical revelation of one God in three persons.

When all components of The Cross are united to become an ultimate unit by deriving the digital root of sum, the result is:

God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = 3 + 9 = 12 » 1 + 2 = 3[God]

God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God
THE GOD EQUATION

Three has been united as One.

The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit exist as distinct yet coequal hypostases within the divine essence, such that their individual distinctions neither augment nor diminish the totality of God's being, but rather subsist harmoniously within the indivisible unity of the Godhead.

The final result of adding all these components (the Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and God) together and deriving the digital root is 3 — which is the same as the digital root of God (12 → 1 + 2 = 3).
This shows that, no matter how you break it down, God is one. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all unified in God. Their sum reflects the ultimate oneness of God.

THE GOD EQUATION beautifully demonstrates the theological truth that the Trinity is one God. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct, but when united, they reveal the singular essence of God — represented by 3, the digital root of unity.

Symbolism:
The fact that the sum of the components leads to 3 symbolizes the perfect unity of the Trinity. This reinforces the concept that, while there are three persons, there is only one God — a deeply meaningful and profound truth in Christian theology.
The proof shows how the Trinity is mathematically and symbolically united as one, emphasizing the oneness of God in a beautifully structured way
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3 3 3 vs. 6 6 6: The Divine vs. The Counterfeit
We established that 3 3 3 represents the Holy Trinity — The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit — perfectly united as one God.
Now, let's examine how this contrasts with Revelation 13:18 and Isaiah 14:14.

1. Revelation 13:18 — The Number of the Beast (666)
"This calls for wisdom: Let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666." (Revelation 13:18, ESV)
666 represents a counterfeit trinity — a perversion of 3 3 3.
Where God's nature is holy perfection (3 3 3), 6 6 6 is an unholy imitation.

The Cross (formed by time: Jewish-Roman timelines) + ThE GOD EQUATION (expressing divine ontology) = A Unified Proof of the Trinity.

The Unbreakable Link: Time + Equation = Proof

A. The Cross Validates the Equation
The crucifixion's 3–6–9 timeline forms a crucifixion cross on the time clock and manifests the Trinity's equation in history:
The cross-shape is physical evidence that God's triune nature is embedded in creation.

B. The Equation Explains the Cross
Why did the crucifixion align with 3–6–9? Because:
God+The Father+The Son+The Holy Spirit=God

It is the 3-6-9 digital root cycle (demonstrated earlier) that enables the culmination of the proof:
THE GOD EQUATION.
Christ's sacrifice is the Trinity's eternal equation unfolding in time.

C. Closed System of Truth
Historical Event (Cross in Time) → Mathematical Law (3–6–9 Cycle) → Theological Reality (God Equation).
All three are interdependent: Remove one, and the system collapses. The Three Pillars Interlock
Pillar, Role in the Proof, Dependency

Historical (Crucifixion timeline: 3rd, 6th, 9th hours) Provides the factual anchor: the cross-shape on the clock. Requires the Gospels' accuracy about the hours.

Mathematical (3–6–9 cycle, God Equation) Reveals the pattern: digital roots and divine arithmetic. Depends on the historical hours to avoid numerology.

Theological (Trinity as 3–6–9) Supplies the meaning: why the numbers matter. Needs math/history to escape subjectivity.

Q:Is this circular reasoning?"
A: No - it's convergent evidence:
History records the hours.
Math reveals their pattern.
Theology interprets their meaning.
The coherence of all three points to design.

Conclusion: The Triune Signature
The Cross in Time and the God Equation are not separate proofs - they are two expressions of one reality:
At the intersection of time and eternity, the Trinity inscribed its name:
 - In history: as a cross.
 - In mathematics: as an equation.
Both declare: God is.

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Abductive reasoning asks: What best explains the evidence? The evidence here is:

Crucifixion at 3rd, 6th, 9th hours (Gospel unanimity).

These hours form a perfect cross on any 12-interval dial.

These numbers follow the 3-6-9 digital root cycle.

This cycle mirrors the Christian doctrine of the Trinity.

Competing hypotheses were implicitly weighed:

H1 (Design): A divine mind encoded theological truth in historical and mathematical patterns.

H2 (Chance): The alignment is coincidental.

H1 is favored because:

It offers a unifying explanation.

It aligns with the specificity of the data (3-6-9, not 2-5-8).

It reflects historical and cultural context (Jewish liturgical hours).

This is not confirmation bias—it is inference to the best explanation.

Gawdzilla Sama

We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

SOG


aitm

They sure love to invent some crazy convoluted mathematical nonsense over a book that is really just one idiot story after another, that only idiots would believe, if they read it with just 1/3 of a brain, and in order to convince themselves this here is magical they spend years staring at a wall until a candle goes off in their head and "voila"!
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust