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Started by JesusIsKing, July 04, 2013, 02:00:21 AM

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Mister Agenda

Quote from: "JesusIsKing"So we share 50% of our genome with a banana and like 99% with a monkey.  Well, monkeys behave much more like us than a banana so obviously their genome would make sense to be closer to ours.  Our genome isn't what makes us unique.  It's something that we will never discover.

Here's the thing: sure, if I were the creator of life, that's the reason monkeys and humans would have similar DNA. Even with lots of training and a century more of science to make it possible for me to create life in a lab, that's how I would have to do it. Because I have limited brainpower and limited resources. I can't afford to write entirely new code for my crowning achievement. It might even be that for me, there is only one way to make a human. All these reasons apply to me, but they wouldn't apply to an omniscient and omnipotent God. Such a being doesn't gain anything by being frugal with resources; it's no more effort to make a human with an entirely unique form of heredity than it was to make a bacterium. Such a being would only make our DNA so similar to a monkey's for some other reason...like fooling us into concluding that we are related to them.

Quote from: "JesusIsKing"I believe that humans are created in God's image and that we were given a soul unlike animals so that we may have the natural urge to seek God throughout our lives.

Why would god be a biped with hands and eyes? But sure, if God is real, he could have given us souls and not given them to animals, whether creationism or evolution is actually the case. If there supposed to give people the natural urge to seek God throughout their lives, they arguably don't work very well; considering hundreds of millions of people are atheists and billions believe in other Gods than yours.
Atheists are not anti-Christian. They are anti-stupid.--WitchSabrina

Mister Agenda

Quote from: "JesusIsKing"Thank you.  It is people who make foolish remarks about my beliefs that I cannot stand.  I am completely happy with where I am headed in life and what I believe in will not change whether I am "Earthly" successful or not.

Like the foolish remarks about Mermaid's beliefs that you made? If you had an ounce of self-awareness, you might have better luck at faking sincerity with us.

Young earth creationism is rarely a barrier to being an effective medical practitioner, as long as you don't go so far as to reject giving updated vaccines; so I doubt your belief will be a barrier to future success. Baptists seem to like going to a doctor that's also a Baptist.
Atheists are not anti-Christian. They are anti-stupid.--WitchSabrina

Mister Agenda

Quote from: "JesusIsKing"I can't question it?  I can question you saying that the Earth is older than that.  Were you there? Did you or your parents witness the Earth more than 6000 years ago?  What you call Earthly evidence, I call people's mistake.

Would you consider that a rebuttal if someone made it about the resurrection of Jesus? Were you there?

You are now obliged to give up belief in the resurrection if you think 'were you there?' is a sufficient rebuttal to a claim made about events that happened before we or our parents were born. If you don't, honesty and integrity would compel you to acknowledge how impoverished the argument you just made was.
Atheists are not anti-Christian. They are anti-stupid.--WitchSabrina

stromboli

He said he loved us! Then he left. Not feelin' the love.  :(

Gerard

By somegreybloke:

Sorry for posting this in two different threads, but I thought it would also be appropriate here....

[youtube:1teo3b5w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2bpc7LSRZc[/youtube:1teo3b5w]

Gerard

PickelledEggs

Everyone is still posting on this thread and JesusIsKing isn't even here to talk to us back.

It's like we're at church.... talking to no one.  :rollin:

Gerard

Quote from: "PickelledEggs"Everyone is still posting on this thread and JesusIsKing isn't even here to talk to us back.

It's like we're at church.... talking to no one.  :rollin:

Oh well, that's life I suppose. At least we're still talking to each other and whenever JesusIsKing wants to join in... Muy bien!

Gerard

Jason78

Poor guy probably feels like he's being picked apart by piranhas.

Maybe he'd fare better in a one on one discussion?
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We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real
tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. -Plato

Plu

I doubt it. He doesn't stand a chance on anyone here. He's already admitted he doesn't have any logical arguments.

the_antithesis

Love is a biological function that we evolved to bond together into groups or tribes, because survival is easier with a group and because it makes raising our young much easier and it's actually become necessary since our young are completely helpless at birth unlike some animals whose young take their first steps mere minutes after birth.

So the question is, why would god love? Is god a biological being? If so, what biological function does love serve this being. How did it evolve the ability to love? If not, then why would a non-biological being have the capacity to love?

Gerard

Quote from: "the_antithesis"Love is a biological function that we evolved to bond together into groups or tribes, because survival is easier with a group and because it makes raising our young much easier and it's actually become necessary since our young are completely helpless at birth unlike some animals whose young take their first steps mere minutes after birth.

So the question is, why would god love? Is god a biological being? If so, what biological function does love serve this being. How did it evolve the ability to love? If not, then why would a non-biological being have the capacity to love?

God=Love, you heathen!
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I like the concept of it, and I like to think it's an integral part of the human condition. Of what we are, so to speak.

Gerard

Mermaid

Quote from: "Jason78"Poor guy probably feels like he's being picked apart by piranhas.

Maybe he'd fare better in a one on one discussion?
Poor guy probably should have jumped into a different pool.  #-o
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

the_antithesis


PickelledEggs

Quote from: "the_antithesis"Love is a biological function that we evolved to bond together into groups or tribes, because survival is easier with a group and because it makes raising our young much easier and it's actually become necessary since our young are completely helpless at birth unlike some animals whose young take their first steps mere minutes after birth.

So the question is, why would god love? Is god a biological being? If so, what biological function does love serve this being. How did it evolve the ability to love? If not, then why would a non-biological being have the capacity to love?
Hypothetically speaking, God could actually have love and be some sort of immaterial biological being. He did impregnate a woman 2000 years ago...

That still sort of wierds me out... He basically is his own father... talk about paradoxes...

anyway. back to the hypothetical stuff.

If he didn't get her pregnant and she did get knocked up by a mortal, maybe he pulled a Viggo the Carpathian? from Ghostbusters 2?

the_antithesis

Quote from: "PickelledEggs"...and be some sort of immaterial biological being.

I'm sorry, but that is a contradictory term. Biological beings are by definition material and immaterial beings are also by definition not material. If you're speaking of both at the same time, then how does the immaterial effect the material since this is so commonly considered impossible the word immaterial is a synonym for irrelevant. As in it has no effect.