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Started by GalacticBusDriver, February 16, 2013, 12:37:09 AM

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Hydra009

Deadpool movie offended a couple of Christians enough that they walked out

I can think of no higher endorsement than that.  Not only is it good entertainment, it also works as pest repellent.

Just fyi, they sat through a lot of jokes that were waaay more offensive than that but that one was a deal-breaker, lol.

Gawdzilla Sama

Their imaginary friend was offended. Can't have that!
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

the_antithesis

So, I finally got off my ass and watched Kong: Skull Island and Godzilla: King of the Monsters.

I didn't like either of them.

If forced to pick, I'd say I hated Kong a bit less. But I still didn't like it. Too much of the camera swinging around things and people. If I'm noticing the camerawork, you done fucked up. No wonder why the director hasn't made another movie since.

But Godzilla colon was even worse. All of the so-called human moments were difficult to impossible to watch. I hated these characters and I hated watching them interact. The monster fights were boring and I rolled my eyes at a number of things that happen in them.

I guess the main thing is, they are no fun. Giant monster movies are supposed to be fun. I'm not having any fun watching this shit. What's the point, then?

I may watch Kong Vs Godzilla because I guess that was the one that saved this franchise. But if I don't like that one, either, I won't bother with the latest one.

It's so frustrating, really. I could break down each movie and pick apart why I dislike these things. I saw the 2014 (or whatever, not looking it up) Godzilla and didn't like it, either. But breaking down these movies feels like I would put more work into them than the filmmakers did. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to bother. Everything felt cobbled together from cliches and callbacks to the original films. And the narrative felt like it was at arm's length. I've never seen such an unsympathetic Kong. It's baffling.

No it's not. It's spectacle. It's a spectacle sandwich, which is like a club sandwich that is just the frilled toothpicks on the plate.

To be honest, I was willing to give Kong colon an "it's alright" but Godzilla colon offended me so badly, that all charity went out the window. It made my skin crawl. I need to look up these actors so I can avoid them if they're ever in anything else. Oh my god, I hated it so much.

I think I sprained my middle finger.

SGOS

Quote from: the_antithesis on August 19, 2024, 02:06:35 AMIf forced to pick, I'd say I hated Kong a bit less. But I still didn't like it. Too much of the camera swinging around things and people.
I have turned off movies right at the beginning when it's filmed with shaky cam. I don't mind it if it's interjected on occasion, but it really adds little to a film. It's a cheap way of making the audience think, "This is really exciting." But it would work better if they simply filmed something that was exciting.

SGOS

Quote from: SGOS on August 19, 2024, 06:59:39 AMI have turned off movies right at the beginning when it's filmed with shaky cam. I don't mind it if it's interjected on occasion, but it really adds little to a film. It's a cheap way of making the audience think, "This is really exciting." But it would work better if they simply filmed something that was exciting.

I read an article about shaky cam once. It's harder to do than just jostling the camera. I can understand that, but it makes me think some camera men aren't good at it.

Gawdzilla Sama

I saw "Godzilla" and "Rodan" at drive-in theaters, first runs for both. THAT was bad. The new stuff is just monster movies. Won't hold them to a higher standard.

I did chuckle at the private navy APEX had for moving the big guy. Seriously, folks, tie-down your fighters!
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Mr.Obvious

Alien romulus.

I'm a fan of the franchise. Not so much that i read accompagnying books or comics. But huge fan of the first two films.
Liked prometheus and covenant well enough.
My first horror(action) game was alien trilogy on the playstation. Was one of my favorites. Did scary quite well for such an old game.
And alien isolation easily goes in my top 5 of videogames of the past fifteen years.

This movie... the cons? Without spoiling, onr if the old actors gets remodelled with cgi. And, that is always a moral conundrum that i don't know what to feel about. Always a bit iffy anw uneasy.
Another thing, was that the recalls to previous installments could, on occasion, be a bit tacky.

Buy overall: i really, really liked it. Saw the ending coming from a mile away seeing as alien films tend to follow the same basic structure. But man, was it a fun and creepy ride.

Best alien movie since aliens.
"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

Hydra009


I really liked the first Deadpool because this was the story of a guy who had a decent life and then it got royally screwed up in the worst way possible and most of the movie is him grappling with that.  He's not just scarred, he's a shell of his former self and he really struggles to step back into his old life and reunite with people from his past.

But even though he's been through some shit, he's not going to let it break him.  His enduring sense of humor is a his way of keeping himself human.  Cable remarks on this, saying it reminds him of his wife.  He's happy-go-lucky when he has every reason in the world to be a wreck or a monster.

That said, he's so immature and attention-seeking that he alienates people.  Wolverine cut him deep, and not just with his claws, noting exactly that.

Gawdzilla Sama

Deadpool was a merc and a bounty-thumper before he got fugly.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Hydra009

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on August 30, 2024, 01:12:09 PMDeadpool was a merc and a bounty-thumper before he got fugly.
We see him threaten a pizza delivery driver for a young girl, who calls him heroic.  Beats a lot of people's jobs.

And X-Men Origins Wolverine is non-canon on account that I haven't watched it yet strongly dislike it.  Let's just say that I wish the TVA was a bit more prune-happy.

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Hydra009 on August 30, 2024, 01:49:35 PMWe see him threaten a pizza delivery driver for a young girl, who calls him heroic.  Beats a lot of people's jobs.
I used to kill people for $8.27/day, no taxes. Didn't even have to buy ammo.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Mr.Obvious

#7526
The hitman's wife's bodyguard.

Let me first say, this movie had some great moments, if you are into mindless action-comedy. Which was what i was looking for.

But, overall, it was lacking.
I really liked the first film, and this was the worst kind of sequal. One that actively makes the prior installment worse.

Not by retconning, mind you. But by ignoring how the characters evolved. How their relationships to eachother evolved.

In the first film, the bodyguard is at a personal low. He blames the girl he loves. He is alienated. But still dependable and, honestly, badass, in his own 'lawfull good' way.
He and the hitman have believable reasons to hate one another. But they grow into a form of respect for one another.
The bodyguard learns to fix his bridges with his ex and fix his own problems and ends the movie as badically his best self.

In the sequel, he starts off a nervous wreck. His skill and determination tanked even lower than before. He is a drag on the team as often as he is useful. No sign of the ex, whom the first film nudged towards a rekindlement.
And his relationship with the hitman is back to shit. No camaraderie. The hitman specifically says how much he doesn't like him and laughs in his face for thinking otherwise.
Later, when they think the bodyguard died, the hitman can't even say a single nice thing about him. Even after the dude saved his damn wife.
So i guess the previous film didn't mean anything for the characters. So why should i believe this second story should?
It is not even fair to say the characters have been reset. They are actively worse and less believable. More like cartoon versions of their former selves with shit-motivation and dumb resolvements to their own goals.

Look, i know not to expect too much from a simple action comedy. But this could have been a much better story if they had built upon their characters, and it infuriates me. If the bodyguard had stayed competent and collected, it would have made more sense for the hitman to call on him. If they kept the camaraderie, he would have helped. If they wanted the subplot about the hitman and his wife trying to get pregnant to mean something, the bodyguard and his rekindled relationship could have been a great foil.
It could have had heart. It should have had heart.
And if it had, it would only have been one dumb plothole in the beginning of the film and the slightly worse action scenes, that would have made it a worse sequel.
At least you wouldnt have had the final resolve to the subplot, as is.
"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

Hydra009

#7527
I'm thinking of rewatching the Matrix films.

I recently watched some of the animatrix shorts, especially the lore-heavy one that recounts the machine-human war and subsequent virtual reality to house the humans so they'd no longer be a threat.

One thing really stood out about that: the tale is told by a computer program - a machine - who repeatedly emphasizes that both sides are at fault.

Yet the actual scenes are almost always of humans acting like total scumbags towards the machines every step of the way - treating robot workers like trash, brutally repressing robot rights protests, mass-murdering robot workers, murdering a robot disguised as a human in an alleyway, murdering robot emissaries, preemptively attacking the machine state, etc.

And the icing on the cake - human irrationality is heavily emphasized, especially xenophobia and religion.  There are several scenes portraying human soldiers engaged in religious observances in an especially dim light - their "peace-loving" religion is mainly used to justify their xenophobia and aggression.

The robots of course win the war and do some terrible things near the end of it, but the implication is that although their means were occasionally cruel, their goals are noble, so if they have to wipe out all human nations to secure their own freedom and safety, then so be it.  This tale implicitly supports the current status quo of humans stuck in the Matrix.

Bear with me here, but consider the source - a machine.  An intelligence capable of bias just as much as humans.  The tale is told through a lens more sympathetic to the machines than the humans.  Key details could be omitted or be factually wrong.  Even if everything is factually correct, it deliberately paints the humans as worse than they actually are.  We know for a fact that there were "liberal robot sympathizers", though they only get a brief mention - protesting for robot rights then presumably arrested or killed or forced to be quiet during the strong anti-machine sentiment at the time.  But that's unlikely where their story actually ends - their ideology almost certainly continued throughout the war, especially as the war turned against the humans and some humans naturally sought a ceasefire and peaceful co-existence.  This highly probable eventuality is never mentioned in the tale, which leads me to believe that the tale isn't completely accurate.

What this tale does do correctly is explain why the remaining human resistance in the films is so religious, always obsessed with prophecy and Zion.  There was a groundswell of religious sentiment during the war and it's implied that more rational-minded people were either repressed by less rational humans or wiped out in the war.

More's the pity, because it's obvious that a permanent peaceful co-existence could be brokered between humans and machines - it's in both sides' best interests - but those in charge in both races want to reign supreme over the other.  This status quo of perpetual animosity is only partially lessened by Neo.

Gawdzilla Sama

If humans were manufactured and put on sale they would get terrible reviews on Amazon.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Hydra009

Just got back from seeing Beetlejuice 2

I won't spoil anything, but 8/10 compared to the original's 9/10.  Well worth the watch.

And if I had a nickel for every movie I've seen this year on the big screen with giant sandworms, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

William Dafoe looked like he was having a blast in his role, Michael Keaton is juicier than ever, Jenna Ortega was a natural as the next generation's moody goth starlet, Catherine O'Hara is okay, and Winona Ryder might have had a pulse at some point but was otherwise wooden, which is no good for a main character.

I'm not sure the plot really stands up to scrutiny (I eagerly await the Pitch Meeting) but it worked for the most part, I think.  Some parts were absolutely hilarious and had me guffawing.

Oh, and I also saw the fookin' legend from Gin Alley himself, Mr Burn Gorman.  Fun casting.