Black Cleopatra

[Susan]

Egypt, apparently.  The government hates this series.

Yeah, this is called "self-xenophobia".

[Blackleaf]

Yeah, this is called "self-xenophobia".

Is this like how people in England were offended by Meghan Markle not being white enough for Prince Harry?

[Shiranu]

Watching this video reminded me of this thread.

The closing statements, around 15:00ish, talks about how misrepresentations of history like this help contribute to a faulty view of the past; it contributes to a false world view where colonialism didn't happen, everything was great and just forget about it.

Who does this ultimately help when people do forget about it - as time passes and historical literacy declines, as reality is written out of history books for political agendas (of either side,) do the oppressed or the oppressors benefit?

[Mike Cl]

Watching this video reminded me of this thread.

The closing statements, around 15:00ish, talks about how misrepresentations of history like this help contribute to a faulty view of the past; it contributes to a false world view where colonialism didn't happen, everything was great and just forget about it.

Who does this ultimately help when people do forget about it - as time passes and historical literacy declines, as reality is written out of history books for political agendas (of either side,) do the oppressed or the oppressors benefit?

The Repubs seem to think they benefit.  History (and education in general) seem to be under attack everywhere in this country.

[Shiranu]

The Repubs seem to think they benefit. 

They do; they discovered the cheat code that so many other fascists and their brothers in evil have used throughout history - stand for nothing other than self gain.

It's all a game for them.

Houston recently dismissed a bunch of school librarians; those libraries are now being converted into "discipline centres."

Nazis burn books publicly in Florida.

Several States need to see the federal government flex it's muscles a bit more than it has; there is no benefit in letting the fascist agenda spread in America.

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Is this like how people in England were offended by Meghan Markle not being white enough for Prince Harry?

No, more like having a woman of African descent play Anne Boleyn.  It is ahistorical.  It may surprise people to know that the Egyptians do not think of themselves as similar to sub-Saharan Africans, even though they are on the same continent.  They have much more in common genetically and culturally to Middle-Eastern people.

Also, Cleopatra was the last of the Greek dynasty resulting from the wars of Alexander the Great.

[Susan]

No, more like having a woman of African descent play Anne Boleyn.  It is ahistorical.  It may surprise people to know that the Egyptians do not think of themselves as similar to sub-Saharan Africans, even though they are on the same continent.  They have much more in common genetically and culturally to Middle-Eastern people.

Also, Cleopatra was the last of the Greek dynasty resulting from the wars of Alexander the Great.

Yeah, ahistorical. Just like having somebody blond and/or with blue eyes play Jesus of Nazareth. Which, you know, has been done since the beginning of film history. Yet nobody ever/rarely complained.

The double standard is clear (not from you specifically; racism has been imbued in our society, it seems).

[Blackleaf]

Yeah, ahistorical. Just like having somebody blond and/or with blue eyes play Jesus of Nazareth. Which, you know, has been done since the beginning of film history. Yet nobody ever/rarely complained.

The double standard is clear (not from you specifically; racism has been imbued in our society, it seems).

I've always been annoyed by the Biblical/historical inaccuracies in Bible-based media. It's like none of them read the Bible or do any research at all. They just look at Catholic artwork or previous media and copy their mistakes in their interpretation.

How many animals were on the Ark? Two of every kind? Wrong. Where were the nail holes in Jesus' body? In the palms of his hands? Wrong. How old was Jesus when the Wise Men visited him? A newborn? Wrong.

[Sargon The Grape]

I only care to the extent that it's mostly likely inaccurate, historically speaking. Cleopatra wasn't even Egyptian, she was Greek. And while Greeks do indeed have a variety of skin tones to them, I doubt very many (if any) at that time were of sub-saharan African heritage.

[Cassia]

I've always been annoyed by the Biblical/historical inaccuracies in Bible-based media. It's like none of them read the Bible or do any research at all. They just look at Catholic artwork or previous media and copy their mistakes in their interpretation.

How many animals were on the Ark? Two of every kind? Wrong. Where were the nail holes in Jesus' body? In the palms of his hands? Wrong. How old was Jesus when the Wise Men visited him? A newborn? Wrong.

I recall that 'Acts' has Jesus hung from a tree, however translations of translations of verses written decades after a supposed event can't be taken as facts if not independently verified. Wood was probably scarce around there so I think a tree is probable, however trees are not good death symbols like a Roman cross would be.