Started by jorgammon, July 21, 2023, 11:12:57 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 23, 2023, 06:06:00 PMSo then what was the purpose of bringing up the Council of Nicaea - what about it is supporting evidence of Jesus being made-up?
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 23, 2023, 10:00:04 PMOne was documented, one was not.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 24, 2023, 05:27:12 AMquibble
Quote from: Shiranu on July 24, 2023, 12:54:54 PMYes, evidence he was a historical figure is utterly trivial to the question of if he was a historical figure.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 24, 2023, 01:08:02 PMLOL
QuoteIt is incredible how not one shred of hard evidence points to the existence of anything spiritual (aka "the supernatural) even though we have so many differing religious texts and so many people that believe they are true.
Quote People also believe the earth is flat, Donald Trump is still the acting president, and Covid vaccines have microchips. Belief is nothing to truth. And yet here we are with hundreds of stories about how gods, angels and demons interact with the physical world.
QuoteHard science has blown all that bullshit off a century and a half ago.
Quote from: Shiranu on July 24, 2023, 05:53:13 PMGrow up.
QuoteBeauty, art, music and meditation have nothing to do with anything supernatural. The psychological effect is based on symmetry/asymmetry, frequencies and their harmonics, tension and resolution and our perception.
QuoteHomo Sapiens in a physically incapable species. No fangs, no claws, no armor, no wings. We would have been extinct long ago if not for technological mastery. We are so successful in fact that we are exceeding the capabilities of our planet to support us. Crying won't help and praying won't do you no good. Philosophical ideologies, like religions often just lead to war. Face it, history and philosophy fail, we keep making the same mistakes.
QuoteAgain, a product of our success. None of this is directly attributable to science.
QuoteAre you saying that the scriptures are a better source for morality than rational analysis? The scriptures have been used to justify the whole gamut of human atrocities. We know they are atrocities because we can analyze them. And it says we are "evil" from the get-go. What a fine thing to teach children.
QuoteI am walking in the woods - along my path I see a stranger with his wallet; it is bulging with $100 bills. He is oblivious to me, and I am capable of silently approaching him, slitting his throat and hiding his body where it will never be found.I do not care about his family, I do not care about his friends, I don't know him, I'll be 50 miles away by sunset - I just want easy money. There is 0% risk and 100% reward.What "rationally" makes my action evil? Because I will feel bad? I'm a psychopath, baby, I don't feel that. Does that make me evil? Because I was born different than you? Is that rational?
Quote from: Shiranu on July 25, 2023, 01:57:40 AMA tool is not responsible for the crimes committed by its user's improper use?
Quote from: Shiranu on July 25, 2023, 01:57:40 AMWe are along way away from the Enlightened Philosophers, Men of Science, and Gentlemen of Europe - the last Golden Age of scientists we had was largely Jewish and Christian minorities of African/Hispanic descent in the 1960s-1980s and of Catholic scientific thought in the late 1800s-very early 1900s... both, again, lead overwhelmingly by scientists who kept their cultural theism as a point of pride amongst themselves, not of conflict.