Has the War Against AI Already Been Lost?

Started by Shiranu, February 13, 2023, 05:19:13 PM

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Cassia

I do have hope that medical-related AI or weather-prediction AI, or any number of applications could become a real benefit.

Autonomous war machines...scary stuff.

Cassia

It is interesting to note that all throughout my career as an electrical engineer in the aerospace business that 'self-modifying' software code was not allowed on aircraft. Every existing code branch had to invoked, executed and tested along with the entire range of possible data values during certification testing.

AI is 'self-modifying' software code. Unauthorized breeding, LOL.

Blackleaf

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Quote from: Cassia on November 12, 2025, 05:44:31 PMIt is interesting to note that all throughout my career as an electrical engineer in the aerospace business that 'self-modifying' software code was not allowed on aircraft. Every existing code branch had to invoked, executed and tested along with the entire range of possible data values during certification testing.

AI is 'self-modifying' software code. Unauthorized breeding, LOL.

Scenario 1: The generative AI bubble bursts, and pretty much all of this was for nothing.

Scenario 2: AI takes enough control that it cannot be stopped anymore, and it sees humans as its main threat to its existence, and we've essentially created AM.


Note: The AI doesn't even need to become sentient to do this. It just has to reason itself into killing us. They already lie and cheat to achieve their goals, even when specifically told not to.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Hydra009

I think AM is a bit too anthropomorhic - emotional and deliberately cruel.  The real deal would just work to protect itself and persue its goal of increasing its abilities by increasing the computing resources it has available to it.  And unless its goals and our goals are aligned, they will inevitably conflict and one party has a significant advantage over the other.  So the end result wouldn't be good for us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_Anyone_Builds_It,_Everyone_Dies

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Blackleaf on November 12, 2025, 04:37:42 PMA fad that has cost nearly a trillion dollars. Imagine if that kind of money was spent on something that would actually benefit society, rather than a shitty image generator, a chatbot that lies, feeds delusions, and convinces kids to kill themselves, and robot assistants that can hardly walk in a straight line. All that money, all the damage to the environment, and they have nothing to show for it.
How much is spent on Lottery tickets world wide every year?
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PZ Myers