Has the War Against AI Already Been Lost?

Started by Shiranu, February 13, 2023, 05:19:13 PM

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Hydra009

Family uses AI to create video of murder victim forgiving his killer in court (the clickbait headline makes it sound like the victim is speaking from beyond the grave, which is a pretty factually dubious)

Hooboy, this one is strange.  From my understanding, the murder was due to road rage and I assume it was pretty quick, so it wasn't like the victim penned a forgiveness note or anything.  But the family of the victim and allegedly, everyone who knew the victim thinks he's a very forgiving guy and I don't know him so I guess I'll have to take their word for it.  At first blush, it's weird that they went with a video format rather than just reading a statement, but it's pretty obvious that people are far more emotionally affected by a video format than by anything written (sorry, authors) so this likely affected the final verdict.  In fact, the judge cited it in the final verdict so it's a pretty safe bet.  It makes me wonder if the victim's family personally knew the killer or something.

Hydra009


Gawdzilla Sama

We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

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Blackleaf

The future we were promised: AI will take care of boring, unskilled labor, so that people can focus more on things they find fulfilling.



The future we were given: AI has taken over the things that humans find fulfilling, so that humans can focus more on doing their boring, unskilled labor. ...Yay?

We truly are living in the dumbest timeline. Trump is President. Again. The rich have poisoned our planet with microplastics and forever chemicals. Lobbyists are keeping politicians from making any progress in slowing down climate change. The price of living goes up, while wages stay the same. It's like humanity is actively trying to make itself as miserable as possible.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Gawdzilla Sama

We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Hydra009

Quote from: Blackleaf on June 08, 2025, 01:46:47 AMThe future we were promised: AI will take care of boring, unskilled labor, so that people can focus more on things they find fulfilling.



The future we were given: AI has taken over the things that humans find fulfilling, so that humans can focus more on doing their boring, unskilled labor. ...Yay?

We truly are living in the dumbest timeline. Trump is President. Again. The rich have poisoned our planet with microplastics and forever chemicals. Lobbyists are keeping politicians from making any progress in slowing down climate change. The price of living goes up, while wages stay the same. It's like humanity is actively trying to make itself as miserable as possible.
The common denominator in all that is that it benefits the rich and hurts the poor.

Blackleaf

In terms of money, sure. But their bodies are full of microplastics and forever chemicals too. They're building themselves underground bunkers to avoid the issues that come from climate change (and angry civilians). When their own health is failing and they're living out the rest of their lives locked up underground like an SCP, will it really be worth it?
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Hydra009

That's long-term thinking, a dangerous idea since it leads to rethinking how we go about doing things in a way that might make some very rich people marginally less wealthy.  Instead, focus on the now.  Line go up = good.

Gawdzilla Sama

If we had gotten the future I was promised I would have been a cap trooper.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers


Cassia

Quote from: Hydra009 on June 08, 2025, 12:43:27 PMThat's long-term thinking, a dangerous idea since it leads to rethinking how we go about doing things in a way that might make some very rich people marginally less wealthy.  Instead, focus on the now.  Line go up = good.
That's the truth. Try arguing for long-term investment vs short-term cash grabs in a corporate setting. This is why "running the government like a business" is idiotic. The one long term project corporations are not afraid of working on however, is AI. AI has potential to perform intellectual tasks and hit higher on the salary food chain than the usual factory or logistics automation. Several professions are at risk, even software engineering. That's a bit ironic. Wealth will even become more concentrated as all these higher earners get tossed aside.

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Nobody on June 08, 2025, 03:11:20 PMWTF is a cap trooper?
Starship Troopers* by Robert Anson Heinlein. The soldiers were dropped on enemy territory in capsules. Any good GI is going to shorten "capsule" to "cap" because it become part of the language. I once uttered a sentence that went like this: Topwatchlowerlevellosttwoalphamaincondensatepumpstartingtwobravo. The lights stayed on.

*Not that bastardized movie.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Nobody

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on June 08, 2025, 05:42:17 PMTopwatchlowerlevellosttwoalphamaincondensatepumpstartingtwobravo.
That's easy for you to say! 🤣

Gawdzilla Sama

Kept the lights on. It helped that I was on the Casualty Control Drill Team. I literally taught that evolution.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers