Has the War Against AI Already Been Lost?

Started by Shiranu, February 13, 2023, 05:19:13 PM

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Blackleaf

Okay. I misremembered. It was a fruit fly's brain that was mapped, not a rat's.

"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Gawdzilla Sama

Re AI art, "machines got no soul". I predict the artists will have to document every step of the process so as to guarantee no AI was used. You read it here first.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Shiranu

#227

Originally posted in game thread, but more appropriate here. Tl;dw - EA/Activision have chosen to use AI to create content that people will pay money for rather than hire artists, as well as caused voice actors to quit over fear they would be replaced and put the entire AAA gaming industry in jeopardy; not all bad, but terrible for the tens of thousands of employees who have lost work and the more who will follow.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Hydra009

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 13, 2024, 06:56:06 AMRe AI art, "machines got no soul". I predict the artists will have to document every step of the process so as to guarantee no AI was used. You read it here first.
An art site I go to has had lots of issues with AI art, with the artists who took hours or days to produce one image upset about the flood of AI images, and often many AI images are the same thing with small variations, creating a blur of samey stuff for the viewer.  They've tried limiting AI-generated images to only so many a day, but even that isn't cutting it.

So the solution they've worked out is to host all the AI-generated images at a sister site and all the human-made artwork at the main site.

We'll see if that works.  If it does, this might become the standard practice.

Gawdzilla Sama

And how the fuck are the artists supposed to glue cigarette butts to the canvas?
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Cassia

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 14, 2024, 08:55:21 AMAnd how the fuck are the artists supposed to glue cigarette butts to the canvas?
The number of jobs that will soon be on the chopping block is staggering. And there will be no one left to take your fucking Uber, LOL. Or your self-driving robotaxi. Trickle down to what? I know, let's vote for billionaires! Cuz, they got electrolytes?

Blackleaf

Quote from: Shiranu on December 13, 2024, 10:46:52 PM

Originally posted in game thread, but more appropriate here. Tl;dw - EA/Activision have chosen to use AI to create content that people will pay money for rather than hire artists, as well as caused voice actors to quit over fear they would be replaced and put the entire AAA gaming industry in jeopardy; not all bad, but terrible for the tens of thousands of employees who have lost work and the more who will follow.


At the recent Game Awards show, they showed off this obviously AI generated trailer made by a crypto bro, and paid content creators to promote it.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Shiranu

Quote from: Blackleaf on December 14, 2024, 02:21:08 PM

At the recent Game Awards show, they showed off this obviously AI generated trailer made by a crypto bro, and paid content creators to promote it.

Thanks, I fucking hate it. lol
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Hydra009

#233
An AI that pretends to be a grandmother - a frequent target for scammers.  It just wastes the scammer's time until they finally give up.


Blackleaf

Quote from: Shiranu on December 14, 2024, 05:22:43 PMThanks, I fucking hate it. lol

On the bright side, the trailer got a ton of backlash. It's currently sitting at 2K likes and 14K dislikes, overwhelmingly negative.

The internet as a whole:

"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Hydra009

Two hours of school a day, taught by AI

What could go wrong?

QuoteUnder the 2hr Learning model, students spend just two hours a day using personalized learning programs from companies like IXL and Khan Academy. "As students work through lessons on subjects like math, reading, and science, the AI system will analyze their responses, time spent on tasks, and even emotional cues to optimize the difficulty and presentation of content," according to Unbound's charter school application in Arizona. "This ensures that each student is consistently challenged at their optimal level, preventing boredom or frustration."

Spending less time on traditional curriculum frees up the rest of students' days for life-skill workshops that cover "financial literacy, public speaking, goal setting, entrepreneurship, critical thinking, and creative problem-solving," according to the Arizona application.

Teachers are replaced by "guides" who lead those workshops.
No offense to Khan Academy, I assume they put out good stuff (from what I understand, it essentially started out as a series of tutoring videos), but I don't think that stuff was ever meant to entirely replace classroom instruction.  That'd be like teaching chemistry class purely through Bill Nye videos.  It doesn't work that way and it's not supposed to.

And we're taking note of students' emotional cues on an online class, now?  That's...concerning.

Hydra009



Just checked and this is a real and present error.

Be very, very, very cautious about AI answers for anything.  It's always worth the time to look for multiple, reliable sources pointing in the same direction rather than just accepting the first answer.

Gawdzilla Sama

I'll ignore AI until it can pilot a manned space craft to Europa and back safely.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Blackleaf

I'd love to see a Terminator parody, where the SkyNet AI is like modern AI. Unloading into a tree it had mistaken as human, getting really confused with basic math and logical problems. Someone in the resistance just walks right up to the mainframe and hits delete.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Hydra009