Started by Dreamer, January 19, 2023, 11:20:41 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on January 30, 2023, 05:11:23 PMI don't know what it is that you just said. In your view, god created humans (hands and all) and defined what 'physical ways' are. according to theists god is perfect and incapable of imperfection; so all that is has to be to his liking and intent.
Quote from: ManUfan on January 30, 2023, 03:17:29 PMIt devalues the years of study that medical professionals undertake, it devalues the brilliance of science and it's an insult to the millions of people who suffer with debilitating conditions when God is thanked by the lucky individuals who recover.There is absolutely no evidence that a God has EVER intervened in anything let alone your recovery, so why thank God?You might as well thank Napoleon or Ken Dodd.
Quote from: Mike Cl on January 28, 2023, 12:35:48 PMI don't know why your statement reminds me of this phrase that theists love to utter--'There but for the grace of God, go I.' What I did not realize when I said it myself, is that I was saying that God loves me, but apparently not you.Hubris and religious people go hand-in-hand.
Quote from: Dreamer on February 02, 2023, 11:35:38 PMwe wondered together what could have happened if Joseph hadn't believed or listened.
Quote from: Hydra009 on February 03, 2023, 12:49:59 AMI mean, I hate to break it to ya, but some guy having dreams that his wife was knocked up by God prooobably wasn't the original story, but a later embellishment created by people who came to worship this Jesus figure he probably never even met. And do you have any idea how many people claimed to be born from a god back in those times? It was also not unheard of for kings on shall we say unstable political footing (or to cover up being bastard-born) to claim to this god or that god as his father.
Quote from: Dreamer on February 03, 2023, 12:02:14 AMI have my evidence that God worked to heal me,
Quoteand there's plenty of similar anecdotal experiences.
QuoteShould I not celebrate my recovery, in light of so many still with Graves disease and even more grave diseases? Is it wrong to be happy, when others are simultaneously sad? Is it wrong to be thankful that I am healed? Why?
Quote from: Dreamer on February 02, 2023, 11:45:41 PMHe created us in his image, but we are not the exact same. We're bound by the rules of this universe, subjected to a myriad of forces that we both understand and that we have yet to grapple with. God wanted us to have choices and experiences--and to choose love even when it's hard. Sacrifice would be meaningless without free will. Love would also be meaningless.Yet we know it is the only thing of lasting value. Well, I know it, and I hope you do as well.
Quote from: ManUfan on February 03, 2023, 02:34:39 PMI find Dreamer a tad dishonest.I saw what Dreamer wrote and later deleted.Stick to what you type Dreamer, I don't really care that you didn't think that your doctor was worthy of your thanks for healing you but God is.If you want a conversation with me... Say what you're thinking, and stick to it.
Quote from: ManUfan on February 04, 2023, 06:23:11 AMI was in a field one day. A cow walked behind a bush, when it came out the other side it was a horse.I saw it with my own eyes, so there you go.... Shape shifting animals are a thing.Anecdotal evidence is irrefutable.
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 03, 2023, 08:11:09 PMWhy do none of these Christians understand that "anecdotal evidence" is an oxymoron?🤔
Quote from: Mike Cl on February 03, 2023, 09:04:37 AMThe bible does say god created man in his own image. Sort of:Genesis 1, 27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.and: Genesis 2, 22:And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.So which is it??
Quote from: Dreamer on February 05, 2023, 01:20:22 AMBut it's not. It's just not been studied in a scientifically rigorous way; or, as with my evidence, does not lend itself to replication. That is, it should be approached with caution and not construed as understanding the entire picture.Anecdotal evidence can be collected and compiled for use in science, and this happens regularly with psychology and sociology, for instance.