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Started by Hydra009, November 04, 2022, 09:43:27 AM

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Luther Martini

Quote from: Mike Cl on November 16, 2022, 12:22:29 PMHow is one supposed to pronounce that thing?  Ma gaga?  Mag aga?  Maga ga?  In any, or every way, it sounds like baby talk.   

I think that all the letters are silent, so it's pronounced the same as LOSER.
"Freedom is something that dies unless it's used."  -- Hunter S. Thompson

Hydra009



Source

Such policy wonks, lol.

Hey Georgia, if you want to talk vampires vs werewolves, I gotchu.  And I'd do a much better job with that than any politician.

If you want sane leadership about stuff that really matters, talk to Warnock.

Hydra009

#62


"Centrism"

And yeah, conservatives aren't only against illegal immigration, but immigration entirely.  Surprise!

Shiranu

Oh holy shit, I saw "Akk..." and I already knew.

That... doesn't shock me, but still... damn.

"I'm willing to compromise; you give me everything I want and I don't have to do anything to you.

See? I can compromise!"
All the evils that men cause to each other because of certain desires, or opinions or religious principles, are rooted in ignorance. [All hatred would come to an end] when the earth was flooded with the knowledge of God. - Moses Ben Maimon

Hydra009

I'm still on the fence if this guy is so delusional that he seriously believes these views are centrist or he's some alt-right whackjob who wants to portray a far-right platform as centrist/reasonable (overton window dressing)

GSOgymrat

Quote from: Hydra009 on November 27, 2022, 07:55:03 PMI'm still on the fence if this guy is so delusional that he seriously believes these views are centrist or he's some alt-right whackjob who wants to portray a far-right platform as centrist/reasonable (overton window dressing)

He is someone who will say whatever he believes will keep his audience's attention. He's like Candace Owens, an attention whore with no original arguments.

SGOS

I'll vote that he just wants people to think right wing is centrist.  Many people like to think of themselves as centrist like it's a superior position, even if they are something else.

the_antithesis

Quote from: SGOS on November 28, 2022, 03:57:35 AMI'll vote that he just wants people to think right wing is centrist.  Many people like to think of themselves as centrist like it's a superior position, even if they are something else.

Well, being on the extreme on either side can blind one to aspects of reality. Grand Funk Railroad had a song called "People Let's Stop the War" which offered no direction or insight on how to do that. Or another song called "So You Won't Have To Die" where Jesus himself came down from heaven and told Mark Farner to write a song about overpopulation. It mentions birth control, but it only mentions it in passing because "Jesus is the solution" with no explanation how.

These are admittedly stupid examples, but being too far one way can be blinding, but being somewhere in the middle makes it look like you have a more balance perspective, while making opponents look more extreme and unreasonable. It's desirable to appear to be in the middle because it make you look like you're reaching across the aisle.

Hydra009

Trump lackey Walker loses to Warnock, an actual human being

QuoteGOP Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan says that every member in his party needs to hold former President Trump "accountable" for Sen. Raphael Warnock's (D-Ga.) victory in Tuesday's runoff election. 

"The only way to explain this is candidate quality," Duncan said in an interview with CNN, alluding to the controversies surrounding failed Republican challenger Herschel Walker, whom Trump had strongly encouraged to run.

Duncan added that he hopes Warnock's victory will be a wake-up call for the GOP to examine their future with Trump as the face of the party. 

"If we don't take our medicine here, it's our fault. ... Every Republican in this country ought to hold Donald Trump accountable for this," he said. 
Though the fact that it was such a nail-biter sends a clear message that both Republican leaders and Republican voters care little about supporting reasonable policies or having sane candidates - you can have neither and have a little R next to your name and that's apparently the only thing the GOP cares about anymore besides appeasing would-be dictator Trump.

SGOS

The Republican Party was not the party of integrity or responsibility before Trump.  They're still the same party, but just starting to understand that Trump was not the best person to upend the Constitution and destroy Democracy.  I'm happy they are not supporting Trump, but I'm not sure if my joy is warranted.  Trump was also the cause for getting people who would save our fragile democracy back to the polls.  I guess I wouldn't see the downfall of Trump particularly meaningful in the big picture.  I still think democracy is hanging by a thread, and there are serious problems with both parties.  I will never vote for a Republican, but I keep wondering; Is the Democratic Party the best we can do?

Mike Cl

Quote from: SGOS on December 07, 2022, 01:58:05 PMI will never vote for a Republican, but I keep wondering; Is the Democratic Party the best we can do?
Exactly how I feel!  Wondering:  Should I seriously think of supporting a third party? 
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

PopeyesPappy

Quote from: Mike Cl on December 07, 2022, 03:28:54 PMExactly how I feel!  Wondering:  Should I seriously think of supporting a third party? 

Who would you support? the Greens?
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Mike Cl

Quote from: PopeyesPappy on December 07, 2022, 03:57:13 PMWho would you support? the Greens?
That is my conundrum--which to support.  I don't like the Dems that much, but I loathe the Repubs.   
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Shiranu

Quote from: PopeyesPappy on December 07, 2022, 03:57:13 PMWho would you support? the Greens?

Who I voted for- any chance to help them stay on the ballot and perhaps have more money to spend on advertising and get their message out seems like a positive to me, so I can honestly say it's the first election as an adult that I truly feel good about.

I also live in a state where my vote doesn't matter, so I admit I have more freedom to stick to my ideology. I don't know what I would do in a state with fair elections, it would honestly depend on the candidates.
All the evils that men cause to each other because of certain desires, or opinions or religious principles, are rooted in ignorance. [All hatred would come to an end] when the earth was flooded with the knowledge of God. - Moses Ben Maimon

Blackleaf

Unless we ditch the two-party system (unlikely) or the Republican Party dies, allowing for a less evil party to take their place (not happening in my lifetime), I will always vote Democrat. It would be nice if we had an actual Liberal party, though, as opposed to our current Conservative Lite Democratic Party.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--