Mormon theology explained

[Valigarmander]

[Solitary]

:rollin:  Solitary

[Satt]

Holy fucking fuck. Is this serious?  ](*,)

[Plu]

Yeah. When you really think about them, religions are very silly.

[Poison Tree]

Wait, so the guys trying to make sure everyone got into heaven were the evil ones?

[Plu]

Shows you how silly the whole concept of heaven and hell is. The whole idea of holding people hostage with the idea of heaven and hell, is that it takes away free will in the same way that holding a gun to someone's head does.

The only way you can have heaven, hell and free will is by making people not believe that heaven is actually real. Which, of course, means condemning people to go to hell and knowing it beforehand.

[Solitary]

Our government is screwed up, but it could have been a lot worse, and it is already like this in Arizona. Solitary


From the internet:


Early last month I wrote an article called Rising Christian Imperialism Fueled by Dominion Theology. The article is mainly about the danger of Far Right Christian dominionists gaining control after the Obama failure brings about a Far Right backlash in America.

Little did I know when I wrote it that there is already a plan in place to establish a world theocracy from America. It is part of Mormon prophetic doctrine. Now some might say that this is just some pipe dream of a cult. However, if you read this article you might not be so complacent. Mormons have been working toward that end for 160 years and they have infiltrated high levels of government especially top secret intelligence positions. One of their own Bishops, Mitt Romney, is still one of the top contenders for President of the United States in 2012.

Is it just a coincidence that Christian Dominionism is rising within the Far Right Tea Party that is being fueled at least in part by the rhetoric of a Mormon named Glen Beck and the membership of the Mormon Church? Is it just a coincidence that the main contenders for President or Vice President in 2012 are still Mormon Bishop Mitt Romney and Christian Dominionist Sarah Palin?

Is this all going to tie together somehow to fulfill Mormon prophecy and are the biblically illiterate Christians in America going to be duped into putting a Mormon or a Dominionist into office thinking that these people represent Christianity or Christ? Then after they stack the deck with their own people who is going to remove them?

I know it sounds far fetched but a few years ago any claim that there would be a socialists running government, appointing Far Left rebels and perverts, would not be taken seriously. Remember, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The reaction to the godless socialism and lawlessness might by a pseudo-Christian theocracy. By the way, under the Mormon plan and prophecy all wealth goes to the Mormon Church and the Church redistribute the wealth to whom the Church chooses in their Kingdom of God, so you still get world socialism.

All roads to the future now seem to lead to god substitutes ruling the earth. I guess all roads really do lead to Rome, in any final analysis. One might even come to believe that all world religion is part of a vast satanic conspiracy where man is led to believe that he can become like God (it is).

Anyway, this unusual article by Ed Decker is extremely thought provoking. Whatever you might think, the Mormons are deadly serious about establishing the Kingdom of God on the earth and fulfilling the prophecy about the United States before Jesus can return. The Mormons are on the similar ground as Protestants in Dominion Theology, The Roman Catholic Vatican, Masons, New Age/New Spirituality and all those in various esoteric systems that think man will bring in some utopia on earth.

I will just quote a couple of clips to give you a taste of the article. The article was written three years ago but everything applies even more today.

Now we jump ahead 40 years to 2007... and the 2008 Presidential election. A whole generation has passed and the son of George Romney has risen to the top of the list of Mormons who would qualify to take that run at the Oval Office and perhaps be in the right place as President or Vice President as the Constitution hangs by that foretold thread... and be there to call upon the elders, the Brethren to save the nation and soon usher in the "Kingdom of God."

Far fetched... I would agree that I sound like a man shouting fire in a theatre, but, as you will read, I am talking about valid LDS end-times teachings...

You will also see that Mitt Romney has been raised and trained for this day. His family has been in the church for generations. He is the great grandson of polygamists Gaskell Romney and Anna Amelia Pratt.

Mitt Romney is a Temple Mormon, a High Priest, and as such he has sworn blood oaths of sacrifice, obedience and consecration to the church and the "Kingdom of God." His perfect obedience to these laws will allow him to become a god in the next life, the literal father of the peoples of a new and different earth. He is truly a Presidential candidate with an actual, definable god complex.

Mormon leaders call their empire the "Kingdom of God." However, their "God" is an extraterrestrial from Kolob, definitely not the God of the Bible; and the "Zion" to which their spirit-brother-of-Lucifer Jesus Christ will return to reign is Independence, Missouri.

Most Christians believe, as the Bible declares, that Christ will return to Jerusalem, Israel, to establish His millennial kingdom, whereas Mormons believe that they must establish a worldwide Mormon kingdom dictated from their Missouri base in order to make it possible for Christ to return.

Therein lays a great difference, which is why the Mormon hierarchy, beginning with Joseph Smith himself, has always had worldwide and absolute political power as its goal.

Mormon historian Klaus J. Hansen has written,
"The idea of a political kingdom of God, promulgated by a secret Council of Fifty, is by far the most important key to an understanding of the Mormon past."

Mormon writer John J. Stewart has said:

"The Prophet established a confidential Council of Fifty, or "Ytfif," (Fifty spelled backwards), comprised of both Mormons and non-Mormons, to help attend to temporal matters, including the eventual development of a one-world government, in harmony with preparatory plans for the second advent of the Saviour".

A disproportionate number of Mormons arrive at the higher levels of the CIA, FBI, military intelligence, armed forces, and all levels of city, state, and federal governments, including the Senate, Congress, Cabinet, and White House Staff. Sincere and loyal citizens, most of them may be unaware of the secret ambition of The Brethren. What could be better than having such patriots as these serving in strategic areas of government and national security?

Unfortunately, as we have noticed in every other area of Mormonism, the real truth lies hidden beneath the seemingly ideal image of patriotism presented by Mormons in public service. In fact their very presence in responsible government positions, particularly in agencies dealing with national security, raises some extremely grave questions.

There is every reason to believe that the new President would immediately begin to gather around him increasing numbers of zealous Temple Mormons in strategic places at the highest levels of government. A crisis similar to the one which Mormon prophecies "foretold" occurs, in which millions of Mormons with their year's supply of food, guns, and ammunition play a key role. It would be a time of excitement and zealous effort by the "Saints" to fulfill Joseph Smith's and Brigham Young's "prophecy":

The time will come when the destiny of the nation will hang upon a single thread. At that critical juncture, this people will step forth and save it from the threatened destruction.

Not only does Mormonism predict the "saving" of America, but the precedent for an attempted takeover by force or subterfuge through political means has been set by the founding "Prophet" himself.

Going back to our hypothetical crisis, what Mormons unsuccessfully attempted against impossible odds in the past they might very well accomplish with much better odds in this future scenario. Under cover of the national and international crisis, the Mormon President of the United States acts boldly and decisively to assume dictatorial powers. With the help of The Brethren and Mormons everywhere, he appears to save America and becomes a national hero. At this time he is made Prophet and President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Mormon Kingdom of God, while still President of the United States. There is no provision in the Constitution to prevent this.

With the government largely in the hands of increasing numbers of Mormon [and Masonic] appointees at all levels throughout the United States, the Constitutional prohibition against the establishment of a state church would no longer be enforceable. Mormon prophecies and the curse upon the United States government in revenge for the blood of Joseph and Hyrum Smith would seemingly have been fulfilled. In effect, the United States would have become a theocracy exactly as planned by The Brethren, completing the first step in the Mormon takeover of the world. LDS President John Taylor boasted of it 100 years ago:

[rickcopeland648]

When was this article written? Seriously, outside of teabagger nut jobs, who ever though Palin was a main contender for the veep nomination?

The Masons? Really? Where are the Bilderburgers and the Bavarian Illuminatti in all this?

[stromboli]

Since I am currently the only ex-mormon logged on the forum, I will vouch for its accuracy.   =D>

Yup, its that messed up.

[Solitary]

Thank you  josephpalazzo! What I wrote is not a conspiracy theory but a fact, that is why the Bilderbergers and the Bavarian Illuminati were not mentioned. Solitary

[stromboli]

I guarantee you that Romney's nomination lit every fundie fire in the Mormon camp. Glenn Beck talked about it, but here in Utah, during that period, an Obama sticker in certain parts of the state could cause you serious scrutiny.

It has long been a belief that the church would one day rule the nation, when it "hung by a thread" and the Priesthood bearers would ride in and save it. This is the shit the missionaries don't talk about in discussions. You have no idea the life change that leaving Mormonism entails.

[stromboli]

When was this article written? Seriously, outside of teabagger nut jobs, who ever though Palin was a main contender for the veep nomination?

The Masons? Really? Where are the Bilderburgers and the Bavarian Illuminatti in all this?

Ed Decker hasn't been around for awhile, but the info is good. The Tanners (early Mormon critics)referred to the true church as a shadow behind a facade, which it really is. The true agenda of the church is not what they project to the world. They have a disproportionate number of lawyers and PR men that continually put spin on their shit, to make it come back as wholesome and family oriented.

They also have a disproportionate number of conspiracy theorists, concerning the Illuminati and Bilderbergers. I know. I used to be one. At one point the Masonic Order refused to allow Mormons as members, because the Temple Rituals are a direct ripoff of the Masonic Rites. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were both Masons. Now the Masonic Order is very welcome amongst Mormons, and I knew a few people who were both Masons and Mormons. The more you look, the more wack it becomes.

[rickcopeland648]

They also have a disproportionate number of conspiracy theorists, concerning the Illuminati and Bilderbergers.

And the Masons. Not to mention the Trilateral Commission...

At one point the Masonic Order refused to allow Mormons as members, because the Temple Rituals are a direct ripoff of the Masonic Rites. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were both Masons. Now the Masonic Order is very welcome amongst Mormons, and I knew a few people who were both Masons and Mormons. The more you look, the more wack it becomes.

Yeah, as The Rick Copeland recalls Fawn Brodie covers that (among other things) in "No Man Knows My History". And of course the Masonic Order is accepted amongst Mormons. Just look at the Salt Lake Masonic Temple. If you haven't been in it you should. It's quite as impressive on the inside as it is on the outside.

That's not even to consider some of the Masonic imagery on the Temple... Or even the beehive...

[caseagainstfaith]

Thanks for that.  Good link.  I read some of the comments.  And some other (presumably) ex-Mormons commented saying that it didn't cover every possibility.  And the author agreed, but said that it was already pretty big and covered most of it.  I think he did a great job.

[BlackL1ght]

Just thought I would confirm that this is 100% accurate. And 100% ridiculous.