Started by Hoxha Cat, January 02, 2022, 08:54:06 PM
Quote from: Dantalion on January 25, 2022, 09:15:08 AMIâ€™m sorry but Iâ€™m only sharing what I work for with people that are close to me and I feel deserve the fruits of my labor. Iâ€™m a firm believer in property rights and whatâ€™s mine is mine and nobody should have the right to take that from me.
Quote from: aitm on January 08, 2022, 08:36:50 AMHuman nature is such that it we all believe our contribution to an effort is always just a little more than the next persons. It only takes a few days for one to think another is not properly holding their own. True communism must have a people better at their own psychology than most are, in order to understand that all efforts are somewhat subjective in as much as all people are incapable largely of putting forth the same effort.A stateless, moneyless, classless society cannot work as long as humans possess a level of ego. But without ego, perhaps we donâ€™t get new ideas, we continue with whatever is working even if it is less productive because to suggest new ideas may be seen as an attempt to improve oneâ€™s standing in the community by some. True such communal thinking requires a level of sacrifice of ideas, ego and innovation at the risk of fracturing a delicate balance of people trying to be equal at all levels. Such a community can work for only a short time as those whose ideas may improve the community may be met with resistance, thus the idea maker grows disillusioned at what they consider a wasteful or poorly conceived method of production. Then they leave. One by one.
Quote from: ProletarianBanner on January 25, 2022, 10:44:54 AMIt is not human nature to be greedy,
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Quote from: aitm on January 25, 2022, 11:29:44 AMI would disagree. what the hell does sexuality have to do with any of this? There have been homo's since erectus........LOLOLOL.....sometimes I kill myself.
Quote from: ProletarianBanner on January 25, 2022, 10:44:54 AMIt is not human nature to be greedy
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 26, 2022, 12:23:25 AMI think we're close to pinpointing why communism failed as an economic system.
Quote from: ProletarianBanner on January 26, 2022, 09:59:02 AM... but back in these hunter-gatherer societies there were no classes, there was no patriarchy, there was no greed.
Quote from: the_antithesis on January 26, 2022, 10:00:52 AMGod Damn, but you are stupid if you believe that.
Quote from: ProletarianBanner on January 26, 2022, 10:05:16 AMPatriarchy and greed had started to develop when society transitioned to the period of slavery and then increased during feudalism and Capitalism.
Quote from: Mike Cl on January 26, 2022, 10:37:05 AMMaybe--can you give any citations? Here is a brief article that talks about this subject.Anthropological, archaeological and evolutionary psychological evidence suggests that most prehistoric societies were relatively egalitarian, and that patriarchal social structures did not develop until many years after the end of the Pleistocene epoch, following social and technological developments such as agriculture and domestication. According to Robert M. Strozier, historical research has not yet found a specific "initiating event". Gerda Lerner asserts that there was no single event, and documents that patriarchy as a social system arose in different parts of the world at different times. Some scholars point to about six thousand years ago (4000 BCE), when the concept of fatherhood took root, as the beginning of the spread of patriarchy.Marxist theory, as articulated mainly by Friedrich Engels in The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State, assigns the origin of patriarchy to the emergence of private property, which has traditionally been controlled by men. In this view, men directed household production and sought to control women in order to ensure the passing of family property to their own (male) offspring, while women were limited to household labor and producing children. Lerner disputes this idea, arguing that patriarchy emerged before the development of class-based society and the concept of private property.[page needed]Domination by men of women is found in the Ancient Near East as far back as 3100 BCE, as are restrictions on a woman's reproductive capacity and exclusion from "the process of representing or the construction of history". According to some researchers, with the appearance of the Hebrews, there is also "the exclusion of woman from the God-humanity covenant".The archaeologist Marija Gimbutas argues that waves of kurgan-building invaders from the Ukrainian steppes into the early agricultural cultures of Old Europe in the Aegean, the Balkans and southern Italy instituted male hierarchies that led to the rise of patriarchy in Western society. Steven Taylor argues that the rise of patriarchal domination was associated with the appearance of socially stratified hierarchical polities, institutionalised violence and the separated individuated ego associated with a period of climatic stress.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PatriarchyEvidently communism has never existed at any time. If there has ever been a communistic society in the history of this planet, could you direct me to when and where it existed? Seems to me your brand of communism is simply a pipe-dream; one that can never be achieved.