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Started by Solitary, June 27, 2013, 03:23:25 PM

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Colanth

Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"Yes, the stories of Jesus were passed down through a very well-preserved oral tradition, since all first century Jewish males were indoctrinated with that type of training. However, the infancy of Jesus is really irrelevant in the larger story. The Gnostic stories of Jesus' infancy are proven to be forgeries.
As are the Gospels.  In fact, the only "non-lies" are Paul's stories of a sky-godlet who lived in the 7th heaven (name of - wait for it - Yeshua).  No human body, no virgin birth, no crucifixion - just a mythological godlet who lived in one of the "shells" that "surround" the "everything" that they thought the world is.

Then some people wrote stories about this sky godlet, copying from each other (Luke even claims to just be an expansion of previous gospels) and, in the 4th century, we get a ruler who needs a way to control the plebs, so he has a religion invented - with himself at the top, of course.  (That's what Constantine's Column was all about - Constantine as Apollo/Jesus.)

Christianity is no less total myth than any of the religions it stole from.
Afflicting the comfortable for 70 years.
Science builds skyscrapers, faith flies planes into them.

Colanth

Quote from: "LikelyToBreak"If he took ten extra minutes to get to a church, that would be be ten minutes where the congregation could riot.  He's saving life's here.  Or even worse yet, the congregation could commit mortal sins while waiting for him, and they would all end up in hell for eternity.
And the downside would be?  It's worth 50 bucks each (from our viewpoint) to make sure that they DO riot and they DO commit sins and end up in hell (sooner rather than later).  Every time one of his congregation goes to meet his (or her) "reward", the intelligence of the species increases quite a bit.
Afflicting the comfortable for 70 years.
Science builds skyscrapers, faith flies planes into them.

PilatesQuestion

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"
Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"As a Christian, I agree that this type of behavior is un-Christlike.

You'd think an Almighty God might inspire better behavior.  Why does He always seem to choose such shitty Earthly representatives?  Does he not know how poorly they espouse his word?  A truly brave soul might even wonder why he couldn't imbue men with the spirit to resist temptation.


The assumption is that this man is actually a Christian.

PilatesQuestion

Quote from: "Colanth"
Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"Yes, the stories of Jesus were passed down through a very well-preserved oral tradition, since all first century Jewish males were indoctrinated with that type of training. However, the infancy of Jesus is really irrelevant in the larger story. The Gnostic stories of Jesus' infancy are proven to be forgeries.
As are the Gospels.  In fact, the only "non-lies" are Paul's stories of a sky-godlet who lived in the 7th heaven (name of - wait for it - Yeshua).  No human body, no virgin birth, no crucifixion - just a mythological godlet who lived in one of the "shells" that "surround" the "everything" that they thought the world is.

Then some people wrote stories about this sky godlet, copying from each other (Luke even claims to just be an expansion of previous gospels) and, in the 4th century, we get a ruler who needs a way to control the plebs, so he has a religion invented - with himself at the top, of course.  (That's what Constantine's Column was all about - Constantine as Apollo/Jesus.)

Christianity is no less total myth than any of the religions it stole from.


Which references in which of Paul's epistles are you referring to?

Plu

QuoteThe assumption is that this man is actually a Christian.

Considering how vague the term is, it'd be pretty difficult to go beyond assumption. No two people can agree on who can and cannot be called a Christian.

WitchSabrina

Quote from: "Johan"Oh for fuck sake. Pay $52 and receive a blessing from the big guy. How much do I have to pay for a facepalm from the big guy?

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I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour.

Colanth

Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"
Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"
Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"As a Christian, I agree that this type of behavior is un-Christlike.

You'd think an Almighty God might inspire better behavior.  Why does He always seem to choose such shitty Earthly representatives?  Does he not know how poorly they espouse his word?  A truly brave soul might even wonder why he couldn't imbue men with the spirit to resist temptation.


The assumption is that this man is actually a Christian.
How can we tell that you're actually a Christian?
Afflicting the comfortable for 70 years.
Science builds skyscrapers, faith flies planes into them.

Colanth

Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"
Quote from: "Colanth"
Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"Yes, the stories of Jesus were passed down through a very well-preserved oral tradition, since all first century Jewish males were indoctrinated with that type of training. However, the infancy of Jesus is really irrelevant in the larger story. The Gnostic stories of Jesus' infancy are proven to be forgeries.
As are the Gospels.  In fact, the only "non-lies" are Paul's stories of a sky-godlet who lived in the 7th heaven (name of - wait for it - Yeshua).  No human body, no virgin birth, no crucifixion - just a mythological godlet who lived in one of the "shells" that "surround" the "everything" that they thought the world is.

Then some people wrote stories about this sky godlet, copying from each other (Luke even claims to just be an expansion of previous gospels) and, in the 4th century, we get a ruler who needs a way to control the plebs, so he has a religion invented - with himself at the top, of course.  (That's what Constantine's Column was all about - Constantine as Apollo/Jesus.)

Christianity is no less total myth than any of the religions it stole from.


Which references in which of Paul's epistles are you referring to?
I'm referring to the assertions about a man named Jesus dying and rising.  It's a myth, like the Mithras myth, the Osiris myth, etc., etc., ad almost infinitum.  Read the Bible - there are claims that didn't happen, couldn't happen or are otherwise contrary to fact.  Those are evidences that the assertions are mythological.  (And no "miracle" claim can explain something that's just contrary to fact.  Only words like "myth" and "lie" can apply.)
Afflicting the comfortable for 70 years.
Science builds skyscrapers, faith flies planes into them.