Started by drunkenshoe, February 18, 2021, 02:27:20 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on February 24, 2021, 08:31:23 AMThe "we can only do one thing at a time" argument is fallacious.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on February 24, 2021, 02:03:04 PMThe resources aren't that limited. Fallacious again.
Quote from: Cassia on February 24, 2021, 08:18:27 AMThose pics sure look great, gonna stay tuned for a lot more. One thing that is concerning is the argument for ramping-up space travel because our planet is environmentally doomed...the human survival argument. This should not be our motivation for space travel. Of all the solutions, I think off-Earth colonies are the least realistic answer given the climate change time table we are facing versus our current abilities to survive long-term in outer space.
Quote from: Cassia on February 24, 2021, 10:25:56 AMMisallocation of limited resources is not fallacious
QuotePS..OK..well this has me wondering now. How many years will it be before human beings will be able to self-sustain indefinitely in outer space? Maybe we are closer than I think. Do we really need a host planet?
Quote from: Cassia on February 24, 2021, 02:34:51 PMYeah, we have come so far, LOL. Whistling past the graveyard will end of its own accord.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on February 25, 2021, 02:59:49 AMIn my opinion, they will skip any kind of moon project and concentrate on Mars only.
Quote from: Hydra009 on February 24, 2021, 03:52:53 PMWhile it's true that resources are limited, as I made note of earlier, space exploration funding in the US is pitifully low and other, much less useful/important/humane projects get much more funding. We can (and regularly do) do much, much worse than funding rover launches. So I'm not sure I fully understand this argument about misallocating resources.No idea, but I can guess. We already have people living for months at a time at the ISS. That's a good start. I expect a permanent moonbase within the next 50 years, though it will obviously not be self-sustaining. I don't expect any colonies - moon, planet, or free floating - to become self-sustaining for centuries at the least. Unless we unlock truly godlike tech like teleporters or replicators, I don't see that happening in the foreseeable future.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on February 25, 2021, 07:49:47 AMLaunching missions from the Moon would be a tremendous advantage. We could make rocket fuel on the Moon that doesn't have to be lifted out of the Earth's gravity well for one.
Quote from: Hydra009 on February 25, 2021, 12:26:16 PMExactly. It's the perfect launch site. Also, never have to abort a launch due to bad weather. :)
Quote from: Mike Cl on February 25, 2021, 12:40:36 PMHeinlein tells all about launching from the moon in The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress. Follow his plans. :)
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on February 25, 2021, 05:44:26 PM1. Throw rocks. 2. Repeat.