Started by GSOgymrat, January 26, 2021, 09:40:44 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 27, 2021, 10:43:57 AMOK. But if you offer an understanding in universal terms as a solution as opposed to another in symmetry (finitude as opposed to the eternal soul), you are pointing out some sort of a possible utopia. That's why I am saying it is doable? The bolded part is exactly how religions define the existance and neccessity of evil and so 'sin'. Because 'without evil there is no good'. I mean it automatically falls down to that category, because it is a stipulation.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 27, 2021, 11:34:24 AMThat's a good point. From my perspective, finitude (what I've referred to in previous posts as impermanence) is as close as one can get to fact, where eternal is entirely theoretical. There is nothing in the universe that I'm aware of that doesn't change; everything is affected by relative time and motion. I don't consider finitude and eternal to be equal opposites. I feel like human beings have to face the fact of finitude and a coping skill is to deny its existence by believing in something eternal, despite there being no evidence of permanence in the physical universe or the process of human consciousness.
QuoteBTW, I wanted to say that I appreciate your comments because I recognize that you see things in a very different way than I do.
Quote from: aitm on January 28, 2021, 01:17:33 PMI readily admit a determined passion to not just discount ideas of %u201Cfaith%u201D %u201Cspirituality%u201D and religions in specific whether secular or not. And I also readily admit my position to ignoring such ideas as a purposeful avoidance of such, particularly due to my lack of intellect and not wanting to understand the various positions. Simplicity in as much a Occam%u2019s razor, could suggest all our efforts to uncover what makes humanity human is far simpler. While half the world lives in terror of their immediate neighbors trying to kill them in the night, or desperately scratching for some morsel of food simply to survive another hour, or speaking in hushed voices lest a wayward sentence be met with a bullet or sword, the other half has no understanding of how wealthy they are just to be able to sleep without fear, to know you have enough to eat for a week, to be able to speak relatively fear without reprisal. These are those who ponder the ego driven need to be something more perhaps than we are. The other half cares not at all to these speculations or beliefs. Existence is sometimes hour by hour....ain%u2019t got time for this shit. %uD83D%uDE09
Quote from: aitm on January 28, 2021, 01:17:33 PMThe other half cares not at all to these speculations or beliefs. Existence is sometimes hour by hour....ainâ€™t got time for this shit. ðŸ˜‰