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Is Islam a religion of peace?

Started by Gregory, March 18, 2020, 01:12:33 AM

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Baruch

"Former Malaysian PM: "Muslims Have A Right To Be Angry And Kill Millions Of French People"" ... ah yes, religion of peace allied to protests of peace
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

CrowTRobot

Quote from: aitm on April 01, 2020, 08:41:56 AM
There are a few peaceful current “cults” that a rather peaceful. The quakers, amish, mennonites somewhat. But anytime one preaches peace and compassion one must keep a picture of John Wesley on hand as a reminder how quickly that turns to shit.

Meh, the Amish aren't terribly nice to animals.  They run a crap load of puppy mills in PA.  My late rescue poodle was a breeder for them. When she wasn't of any use to them, they just got rid of her.  Then there's the rape stuff.
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/19/797804404/investigation-into-child-sex-abuse-in-amish-communities
Captain Renault : What in heaven's name brought you to Casablanca?

Rick : My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.

Captain Renault : The waters? What waters? We're in the desert.

Rick : I was misinformed.

Baruch

Usually this would go under Christianity.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

SGOS

Quote from: CrowTRobot on December 22, 2020, 09:06:09 PM
Meh, the Amish aren't terribly nice to animals.  They run a crap load of puppy mills in PA.  My late rescue poodle was a breeder for them. When she wasn't of any use to them, they just got rid of her.  Then there's the rape stuff.
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/19/797804404/investigation-into-child-sex-abuse-in-amish-communities
I never heard about this before.  Disturbing.

Mike Cl

Quote from: SGOS on December 23, 2020, 01:01:03 PM
I never heard about this before.  Disturbing.
Just when I was almost willing to give a sect a grudging pass, I read about the puppy mills these fuckers have!  And then other stuff came out.  Organized religion, with no exceptions, (that I am aware of) is evil and damaging. 
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Baruch

Quote from: Mike Cl on December 23, 2020, 01:30:07 PM
Just when I was almost willing to give a sect a grudging pass, I read about the puppy mills these fuckers have!  And then other stuff came out.  Organized religion, with no exceptions, (that I am aware of) is evil and damaging.

Atheists commit immorality and crimes too.  You should damn them every day ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

SGOS

I always got a long with the Amish.  I've done business with them.  They seemed the least offensive of the religions around me, but they do have their detractors, mostly from other Christian sects.  I just expected more from the Amish.

Baruch

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Quote from: SGOS on December 24, 2020, 11:19:20 AM
I always got a long with the Amish.  I've done business with them.  They seemed the least offensive of the religions around me, but they do have their detractors, mostly from other Christian sects.  I just expected more from the Amish.

Their problems with women and with dissidents are noted.  And of course they have the same percentage of criminals as any other group.

"Outrage After Pakistani Court Releases Convicted Murderer Of Journalist Daniel Pearl" ... religion of piece (of shit)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Eclectic

Because Islam has permited and has been mondatory, these bad anti-human actions, is Satanic and is not a peace religion:
1- Slavery.
2- Torment and torture (stoning, burning, lash).
3- Insulting to women and followers of other religions.
4- anti-womenism
5- Jihad against other religion.
6- favoritism

Blackleaf

Quote from: Eclectic on December 17, 2022, 12:52:25 PMBecause Islam has permited and has been mondatory, these bad anti-human actions, is Satanic and is not a peace religion:
1- Slavery.
2- Torment and torture (stoning, burning, lash).
3- Insulting to women and followers of other religions.
4- anti-womenism
5- Jihad against other religion.
6- favoritism

That list applies just as well in relation to Christians. Just replace "Jihad" with "crusades." Also, three and four are basically the same thing, and I think you mean anti-feminism?
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Eclectic

Quote from: Blackleaf on December 17, 2022, 02:31:21 PMThat list applies just as well in relation to Christians. Just replace "Jihad" with "crusades." Also, three and four are basically the same thing, and I think you mean anti-feminism?

I doubt that Christianity has permited, slavery and items of 2 and 3 and 4 and 6, but if it has permited one of them it is like Islam and is Satanic.

In Islam in Quran and hadith Permited and ordered to do all 6 item, but Jesus never ordered them.

item 6 = favoritism = if by law a person is not equal rifhts to other persons.

the_antithesis

Quote from: Eclectic on December 18, 2022, 09:40:39 AMI doubt that Christianity has permited, slavery and items of 2 and 3 and 4 and 6, ...

Oh, you sweet summer chile.

Blackleaf

Quote from: Eclectic on December 18, 2022, 09:40:39 AMI doubt that Christianity has permited, slavery and items of 2 and 3 and 4 and 6, but if it has permited one of them it is like Islam and is Satanic.

In Islam in Quran and hadith Permited and ordered to do all 6 item, but Jesus never ordered them.

item 6 = favoritism = if by law a person is not equal rifhts to other persons.

You haven't read the Bible, have you? God was a big fan of slavery. He had his people raid other cultures and take the survivors (if there were any) as lifelong slaves or "wives" (otherwise known as sex slaves). Even in the New Testament, God never condemns slavery, but actually commands slaves to be obedient to their masters.

"Slavery in the Bible was more like indentured servitude, and it was temporary."

No. This only applies to Hebrew slaves. If your neighbor owed you money, you could make them your slave until they paid you back, or until a certain amount of time has passed. Outsiders didn't get it that good. They served for life. Heck, even if you had one of those temporary slaves, the Bible has instructions on how to bribe them into staying. Just get a female slave and assign them as his wife. Over time, when he grows attached to her and likely has children with her, when it's time for him to be released, he can't take his wife and kids with him. They belong to you. If he wants to keep his family, he has to make an oath to serve you for the rest of his life.

As for favoritism, are you kidding? Christians love showing favoritism. If a business owner reveals themselves to be Christian, that's a shortcut to earning everyone's trust. You don't have to earn it. They're Christian, therefore it's assumed they're good people.

Name a US politician who isn't Christian. Republican or Democrat, doesn't matter. Both are overwhelmingly Christian, because people will not vote for you if they don't think you are a Christian.

Also, need I remind you we still haven't had a single female President in this god-fearing country? I wonder why...
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

LinuxGal

Quote from: Baruch on October 29, 2020, 09:09:17 PM"Former Malaysian PM: "Muslims Have A Right To Be Angry And Kill Millions Of French People"" ... ah yes, religion of peace allied to protests of peace

Beware French counter-battery fire.  They are nuked up.

ManUfan

No. Islam is not a religion of peace.
From it's birth it's been a religion of fear.
It's a skidmark on the underpants of humanity, much the same as Christianity.

I hate silly questions.
Closer to death than birth