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Started by Sal1981, January 28, 2020, 09:04:46 PM

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GSOgymrat

Interesting.

If You Have Anxiety and Depression but Feel Better During Coronavirus, You’re Not Alone

https://www.thedailybeast.com/coronavirus-is-making-a-lot-of-people-anxious-and-depressed-but-some-sufferers-actually-feel-better-now

... Elizabeth Cohen, who has practiced psychology for 15 years with a specialty in anxiety, estimates that 20 percent of her clients have actually seen their symptoms alleviate in recent weeks. Roughly the same portion have seen their symptoms worsen, she says, while the remainder have seen little change. Elizabeth Visceglia, a psychiatrist who has practiced for 16 years (and, full disclosure, is the wife of our editor-in-chief Noah Shachtman), has not seen such a substantial number of her clients’ symptoms alleviate amid the outbreakâ€"only one out of 20 she’d seen during the week of our interview fell into that category. But both offered several possible reasons that a person with a history of depression and anxiety might find some relief at a time like this.

A big part of anxiety, Cohen pointed out, is the anticipation of the unknownâ€"worry about something bad that will inevitably happen. With the outbreak, she said, “a lot of people are saying, ‘The terrible thing happened.’ So in a lot of ways you’re not in the anticipating state.” ...

Visceglia offered another theory, regarding her own client who has seen his symptoms lift. “My sense was that finally everyone else has a taste of what his inner world has been like,” she said. Seeing his inner state mirrored by the outside world, Visceglia posits, helped shut down self-critical thought patterns and offered some relief.

“The part of us that's judging and comparing us to everything and everyone around us is so exhaustingâ€"and especially, I think, for people that are feeling disconnected,” Visceglia said. “That people are openly and actively struggling with loneliness and isolation... For someone that’s been feeling that in a crowd already, it can be kind of validating.” ...

Baruch

#946
Quote from: GSOgymrat on April 05, 2020, 09:57:19 PM
I agree. I've never related to the fascination and awe many people experience regarding the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. To my heathen mind, it just seems barbaric and disgusting. I remember going to a passion play growing up and feeling alienated by the tears, wails, and wonderment of the audience. To be honest, I don't understand exactly why sacrificing animals and people to deities is so common other than by people giving up something valued they demonstrate fealty to their god before the tribe. I suppose nothing demonstrates commitment like killing your child.

You are not a heathen, or you might practice not just taurobolium but human sacrifice.  You are a Puritan who has lost his faith?  A Puritan might find Howard Hughes need for cleanliness to be inadequate.  As an atheist, you a Guardian of Plato's Republic.

If you are dying of a lingering illness, the final stage before death is "acceptance".  That is how my mother went.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Munch on April 05, 2020, 10:14:38 PM
I feel that there needs to be more psychological studies made and classifications for the kind of mentality that mindlessly falls in line with prayer and following the made up stories by most religions. You can have many different types of people who follow a religion, the passive types, the aggressive types, the forceful types, the meek types, many just following a single minded concept that if they break out of they becomes psychologically unhinged.

As someone with OCD and often an introvert, I know what it means to come out of my comfort zone and how that makes me feel, however if I were like the woman in that video, I'd be telling everyone to back away from me all the time and washing my hands to the point of them bleeding and saying 'this is normal'. I don't of course and have worked to control my psychological ticks in order to be social and do things outside of my comfort zone.

I wonder if it comes down to there just being that type of person whos born dependent on being told what to think and feel, making them easy to manipulate. When you look at the mass of people in places like the vatican or mecca, people bowing to the words 1 person tells them to act like, it makes you think about the human condition overall, is it that kind of bestial primate instincts that they've just not evolve from yet?

Sixteen different kinds of personalities.  But one personality is the Master Personality, which should dominate the others ... bwahah.
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
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Don't do that.

Hydra009

#948
Pastor who decried "hysteria" dies of coronavirus.

While sick, he posted that covid-19 was like swine flu and that covid-19 news coverage was politically motivated to hurt Trump.

Hydra009

'You don't need hand sanitizer, you need faith in Jesus and guns!' (paraphrased)

She died from covid-19.

She posted this weird, irrational facebook rant against "socialism" (a presumably unjust system where the public pools their resources to pay for essential things like roads and healthcare) while simultaneously asking the public to pool their resources to pay for her healthcare.

SGOS

From the article above:

Quote
On the 13th of March Pastor Spradlin shared on Facebook a misleading post comparing swine flu and coronavirus deaths.  It suggested that Barack Obama and Donald Trump respectively had been treated very differently by the media and that it was a politically motivated ploy to harm President Trump.  Earlier the very same day, the president himself had insinuated something very similar at a news conference.... Pastor Spradlin's son, Landon Isaac, 32, told me that he and his father had talked and agreed about what they felt was an irrational frenzy and fear mongering about the virus, perhaps because it was an election year.
I can't find the word to describe this reasoning fallacy.  The first phrase that comes to mind is "Political thinking," but that's not quite right.  Ideological thinking, maybe?   Ideological thinking is not always a fallacy, although it often is.  Is there a word or phrase that describes making a claim on something depending on how it affects a political ideology, rather than on actual facts that pertain to the claim?

In this case, being a month ago, the facts and truths about corona virus were available from knowledgeable sources.  However, they were not fully assimilated into society (and probably never will be).  This guy must have arrived at his conclusion by how the facts affected Donald Trump.  If the facts supported Trump, he would have believed them.  Since they didn't support Trump, he rejected them.  This reasoning probably played a large part in the man's death.

I'm mentioning this, because we see this kind of political or ideological thinking all the time.  Politics is a haven for fallacy, maybe even surpassing religion.  And serious harm, both psychological or physical is often the result.  The invasion of Iraq was based on ideology, not actual information, and hundreds of thousands of people died, many who were completely innocent and nothing more than bistanders.  While the incident with the pastor may have directly caused this man's death, such thinking and behavior unfortunately puts others at great risk also.  And this flawed reasoning isn't going away, even though it is often dangerous to the extreme.

The fact that this guy was a theist aside, I always hate to lose a good blues musician, especially for a stupid reason. 

trdsf

Yeah, those churches that insist on continuing having services?

Hands up who's surprised that they're starting to get clobbered by COVID-19...
"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total, and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." -- Barbara Jordan

SGOS

QuoteSehlke wrote in part:

Wake up!!! This is what the beginning of socialism looks like!
…
They (the media) are leading with fear causing you to panic like sheep.
Or alternatively:

Wake up!!!  Fear of socialism is what blind right wing ideology looks like!
...
They (Republican Puppet Masters) are leading with fear causing Republicans to panic like sheep.

Mike Cl

Quote from: Hydra009 on April 06, 2020, 08:29:09 AM
Pastor who decried "hysteria" dies of coronavirus.

While sick, he posted that covid-19 was like swine flu and that covid-19 news coverage was politically motivated to hurt Trump.
I love that the idiot minister (redundant, I know) rationalized posting falsehoods about the virus and Trump, because he was tired of the media using fear to make a point.  Which is exactly what every minister does, uses fear to make their christian points.  Christianity and fear are brothers.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

SGOS

Covid-19?  Hey look over here; Obama still wants to take away our guns.
Why worry about corona virus when Hillary was using her private computer for government business? 
Refuse to stay at home, or to maintain 6ft spacing.  They're just training us to be Socialists.

Baruch

Quote from: Hydra009 on April 06, 2020, 09:03:45 AM
'You don't need hand sanitizer, you need faith in Jesus and guns!' (paraphrased)

She died from covid-19.

She posted this weird, irrational facebook rant against "socialism" (a presumably unjust system where the public pools their resources to pay for essential things like roads and healthcare) while simultaneously asking the public to pool their resources to pay for her healthcare.

Well, people who are still on Facebook ...
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Hydra009 on April 06, 2020, 08:29:09 AM
Pastor who decried "hysteria" dies of coronavirus.

While sick, he posted that covid-19 was like swine flu and that covid-19 news coverage was politically motivated to hurt Trump.

Swine flu, like Covid, both come from China.  Swine flu killed over 12,000 people in the US, over 500,000 worldwide.  Covid may yet be more serious than Swine flu, something that Obama and Congress completely ignored.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

#957
Quote from: SGOS on April 06, 2020, 09:35:32 AM
Or alternatively:

Wake up!!!  Fear of socialism is what blind right wing ideology looks like!
...
They (Republican Puppet Masters) are leading with fear causing Republicans to panic like sheep.

I still favor FEMA camps for y'all ... but only when it is cotton harvest season (sarc).  Wish I was in the land of Democrats ...
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: SGOS on April 06, 2020, 09:58:20 AM
Covid-19?  Hey look over here; Obama still wants to take away our guns.
Why worry about corona virus when Hillary was using her private computer for government business? 
Refuse to stay at home, or to maintain 6ft spacing.  They're just training us to be Socialists.

No ... that was Biden's gun czar, Roberto ...

No need to buy clothes, your Mao suits are being sewn up in China as we speak.

No, I am not worried about the virus, that is Dem MSM spreading panic.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

"FEARS OF SOCIAL ORDER BREAKDOWN IN NYC AS BURGLARIES NEARLY DOUBLE, NYPD CALLING IN SICK" ... 10,000 NYC police and firemen call in sick.  The public employee unions, strike again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFLiDrYPE1w

I am going to miss NYC ... for Broadway anyway.
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Don't do that.