Transgenic disaster in S America?

Started by Baruch, October 02, 2019, 10:24:16 AM

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Baruch

"Science Catastrophe In South America Could Kill Millions" .. transgenic mosquitos backfire.  They were supposed to be sterile, but they are not, they are breeding with the locals (to reduce total mosquito reproduction) but the exact opposite happened.  Their competition with the local mosquitos are producing viable offspring!!  So is this a repeat of "attack of the killer bees" (which sort of fizzled by the time it got to the US) or worse?
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PopeyesPappy

Meh. Mosquitos are an important part of the food chain. People? Not so much...
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Hydra009

So...is there some sort of news article for this...or...?

Shiranu

Quote from: Hydra009 on October 06, 2019, 09:54:02 PM
So...is there some sort of news article for this...or...?

https://news.yale.edu/2019/09/10/transgenic-mosquitoes-pass-genes-native-species

I don't see what the major risk factor to the ecosystem or to humans is.

The only real take away from this story is, surprise surprise, humans try to make a change to the environment and it doesn't work the way they planned.
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Hydra009

Yeah, I don't get what the big deal is supposed to be about.  An attempt to cripple mosquito birthrates failed (sorta).  Oh well, back to the drawing board.

Besides, other attempts have been far more successful, so unless Barauch is the sort of person who draws a line from a dot (and I'm fairly certain he is) I'm kinda at a loss as to the purpose of this thread.

Maybe to FUD up some exceptionally knee-jerk and uneducated people, I guess?  Good luck with that.

Mr.Obvious

Quote from: Hydra009 on October 06, 2019, 09:54:02 PM
So...is there some sort of news article for this...or...?

It's kind of like his crickets thread.
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Baruch

Quote from: Hydra009 on October 06, 2019, 11:49:57 PM
Yeah, I don't get what the big deal is supposed to be about.  An attempt to cripple mosquito birthrates failed (sorta).  Oh well, back to the drawing board.

Besides, other attempts have been far more successful, so unless Barauch is the sort of person who draws a line from a dot (and I'm fairly certain he is) I'm kinda at a loss as to the purpose of this thread.

Maybe to FUD up some exceptionally knee-jerk and uneducated people, I guess?  Good luck with that.

The point isn't to aid mankind, it is biowarfare experimentation.  And I wish them success.  Y'all think that scientists are gods.
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Baruch

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on October 07, 2019, 01:47:51 AM
It's kind of like his crickets thread.

Are you saying the killer bees were fake?
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Mermaid

This is complete bullshit. This article talks out of both sides of its mouth. Inflammatory, alarmist, reactionary bullshit. Don't spread bullshit.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/science-catastrophe-south-america-could-kill-millions

OMG! COULD KILL MILLIONS! CATASTROPHE!

Read the fine print here: Females preferred to mate with fertile males, so the infection rate didn't change, so the experiment failed.

Fake news, especially about science, irritate the SHIT out of me. Use your critical thinking skills and read what you post.

Now get off my lawn.

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Mr.Obvious

Quote from: Baruch on October 08, 2019, 10:20:09 AM
Are you saying the killer bees were fake?

No, I'm saying you have an entire three filled with non-sources quotes and headlines.
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Baruch

Hence .. my question marks.  I thought this sterile male mosquito thing was tried years ago.  But maybe they didn't use gene manipulation to make them sterile?  Hulk radiation maybe?  Or little forceps to take off their … manhoods?

The killer bees interbred as they moved north.  However, did any of that play into the multiple cause die off of regular honey bees?  Or is new pesticide the only cause?

Progressives … any random mixing of genes in a species or between species is Mad Science.  Nothing can go wrong because Dr Jekyll is a genius.  They have nothing to Hyde.
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.