Started by Mousetrap, August 03, 2018, 07:13:29 AM
Quote from: Blackleaf on August 03, 2018, 01:29:48 PMLeviticus 25:44 - "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves."Yes, I agree. No point in discussing a question with an answer so obvious, anyone with a fully functioning brain can see it.
Quote from: Mousetrap on August 03, 2018, 10:08:14 AMNoted!As long as you realize that the next time you, or other atheists claim the Bible is the source of Slavery, you are incorrect.So, in an attempt to discredit the Bible with such a fallacy, will by default prove deliberate ignorance to the facts as I compiled.Dont even think of telling anyone, "it is simply another interpretation".That galley will sink, slaves and master.End of discussion.
Quote from: Unbeliever on August 03, 2018, 07:55:47 PMBut...but...atheists claim there was never any slavery until the Bible said it was OK!
Quote from: Cavebear on August 04, 2018, 02:45:31 AMWow, Mousetrap's posts were long and detailed. And I didn't bother to read a word of it all...
Quote from: Cavebear on August 04, 2018, 05:27:09 AMNo, slavery probably existed since the beginning of human organization, Someone always had to be on the bottom rung of the ladder. But organized and justified slavery might be a different matter. In that case, social organization reached a level where particular groups were considered "only-slave-worthy" so to speak. Pretty much every racial or ethnic or religious group have been slaves at some point. My ancestors were slaves, your ancestors were slaves, everyone's ancestors have been slaves at some time. I don't not mistake that for the more modern organized slave practices of course. It only just got worse until it finally ended (legally in most places). As an atheist, I neither claim that slavery started in biblical times (much older) nor stopped in modern times.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 04, 2018, 02:45:31 AMWow, Mousetrap's posts were long and detailed.
Quote from: pr126 on August 03, 2018, 10:40:10 AMSlavery has been around long before Christianity or Islam was invented. So why religion, which claims to be the ultimate moral guidance for humanity did not stop slavery?Because religion was created for control of the masses.And more importantly, an economic advantage of capturing and selling humans for profit.Slavery is still present today in some parts of the world. Some 40 Million people are still slaves.
Quote from: Mike Cl on August 03, 2018, 11:32:13 AMDelusional--at best. Willfully false and totally blind. But, hey, it is your world so structure it any way you want. But conflating facts and that Brothers Grimm fairy tale is simply laughable. People think of fairy tales as being nice children's stories. Read the real Brothers Grimm and you will soon find out that isn't so. Same with the bible--it is simply gruesome stories used as a rather complicated boogie man to scare people into doing whatever the teller wants them to do. I would say 'pathetic' but it doesn't reach that standard.
Quote from: Hydra009 on August 03, 2018, 11:41:26 AMThese are two VERY different claims. Despite your wall-o'-text claiming otherwise, even a casual reader of the Bible will note that it seems surprisingly unopposed to slavery.I hate to break it to ya, but you didn't even achieve that.Hahaha. No.
Quote from: Mousetrap on August 06, 2018, 03:22:58 AMOh, but it did!It was also the Christians who fought wars against slavery to end it.