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Started by pr126, July 13, 2018, 02:04:35 PM

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pr126

#45
The power of the media fuelling the TDS.


The U.S. just recorded 4.1 percent GDP growth after years of stagnation and working people are crediting President.  The horror.

You are told by the media 24/7 that Trump is the worst thing ever happened to America.

The media never lies, impartial with no agenda.
And you believe it because that's what you want to hear.

Confirmation bias.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BayHuo26I74

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsAlOzZuAuk


Hydra009

#46
Quote from: pr126 on July 28, 2018, 11:54:13 PMThe U.S. just recorded 4.1 percent GDP growth after years of stagnation and working people are crediting President.  The horror.
Highest in nearly 4 years.  Remind me, who was President back then?  Surely, you'd credit both the current and previous President with their respective GDP growths, right?

BTW, here's the GDP growth rate curve over the past 10 years:


pr126

Quote from: Hydra009 on July 29, 2018, 12:31:17 AM
Highest in nearly 4 years.  Remind me, who was President back then?  Surely, you'd credit both the current and previous President with their respective GDP growths, right?

BTW, here's the GDP growth rate curve over the past 10 years:



"Surely, you'd credit both the current and previous President with their respective GDP growths, right?"
No.

Hydra009

Quote from: pr126 on July 29, 2018, 01:12:43 AM
"Surely, you'd credit both the current and previous President with their respective GDP growths, right?"
No.
What a shock.

pr126

#49
Obama could not achieve this in 8 years what Trump did in one.
What a shock indeed. Or perhaps it was GW Bush's legacy that stunted Obama's efforts?

It is a difference running the economy like a businessman or a career politician.
None of this matters. Trump can NEVER be right. End of discussion.

Because in reality, you do not want him to succeed. Remember Bill Maher about wanting a recession?
It would show that you have been wrong with the Dems all along. The horror.

Now think how the religious feel when you tell him his beliefs are a waste of time.
There are similarities here, as politics is replacing religion.
You even have a revered prophet, Karl Marx.

There will be a few zealots denouncing me as a heretic, it is expected.
The left is well known for tolerance to differing ideas, isn’t that so?





Munch

Quote from: pr126 on July 29, 2018, 02:18:30 AM
Obama could not achieve this in 8 years what Trump did in one.
What a shock indeed. Or perhaps it was GW Bush's legacy that stunted Obama's efforts?

It is a difference running the economy like a businessman or a career politician.
None of this matters. Trump can NEVER be right. End of discussion.

Because in reality, you do not want him to succeed. Remember Bill Maher about wanting a recession?
It would show that you have been wrong with the Dems all along. The horror.

Now think how the religious feel when you tell him his beliefs are a waste of time.
There are similarities here, as politics is replacing religion.
You even have a revered prophet, Karl Marx.

There will be a few zealots denouncing me as a heretic, it is expected.
The left is well known for tolerance to differing ideas, isn’t that so?

like religion, politics becomes a state of mind for people to protect themselves with, and for many thinking outside that bubble is scary.

A far leftist can make the claim they believe what they do politically because it is about helping peoples rights and freedoms. but they also use it as an excuse to shit on anyone who doesn't agree with everything they promote.
I frequent tumblr, because no shame for the free porn, but the problem with that is once you sign up to a lot of different pages on it, you really do see there the handle of it being very sjw driven comes into play, like this post today.



the replies came with stuff like someone having Jon Cena making an Ooh face, while many in the comments agreed with it. This 'cis white male' thing modern sjws still throw around on social media claiming white men are the blame for everything, I compared it to the Jim Crow laws, how one race of people are claiming another is inferior to them.

This is an indoctrinated world view, no different to a religious preacher telling his followers to accuse all gays of sin, or muslims indoctrinated to kill the jews.

social justice warriors are as bad a christian fundamentalists, and yes, the same as right wing fundamentalists. All are indoctrinated groups lead on by others into group think.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Hydra009

#51
Quote from: pr126 on July 29, 2018, 02:18:30 AM
Obama could not achieve this in 8 years what Trump did in one.
What a shock indeed. Or perhaps it was GW Bush's legacy that stunted Obama's efforts?
Hilarious.  Trying hard to form-fit the data into your narrative.  I suppose that it has to be funny, because otherwise it'd be sad and pitiable.

QuoteIt is a difference running the economy like a businessman or a career politician.
And the jokes just keep on coming.

QuoteNone of this matters. Trump can NEVER be right. End of discussion.
Funny that you should say that, when you're the premier example of someone who's opinion is fixed and no longer in sync with reality.

Quote
Now think how the religious feel when you tell him his beliefs are a waste of time.
Evidentally exactly how you feel when I tell you that you're delusional, impervious to reason, and use obviously hypocritcal arguments.

Much like a religious person, you'll claim persecution and claim that your critic is a devotee of satan/marxs or whatever you need to do to save face and gish gallop to the next argument.

Never once will it dawn on you that there's an error in your thinking, that your holy text isn't, that your tin god is just a small, flawed man unworthy of worship, and that people who disagree with you aren't in league with the devil.

SGOS

Quote from: Munch on July 29, 2018, 07:59:27 AM
like religion, politics becomes a state of mind for people to protect themselves with, and for many thinking outside that bubble is scary.

A far leftist can make the claim they believe what they do politically because it is about helping peoples rights and freedoms. but they also use it as an excuse to shit on anyone who doesn't agree with everything they promote.
I frequent tumblr, because no shame for the free porn, but the problem with that is once you sign up to a lot of different pages on it, you really do see there the handle of it being very sjw driven comes into play, like this post today.



the replies came with stuff like someone having Jon Cena making an Ooh face, while many in the comments agreed with it. This 'cis white male' thing modern sjws still throw around on social media claiming white men are the blame for everything, I compared it to the Jim Crow laws, how one race of people are claiming another is inferior to them.

This is an indoctrinated world view, no different to a religious preacher telling his followers to accuse all gays of sin, or muslims indoctrinated to kill the jews.

social justice warriors are as bad a christian fundamentalists, and yes, the same as right wing fundamentalists. All are indoctrinated groups lead on by others into group think.
Kara's tweet is misleading because most of the mass shootings that get massive media attention are done by white boys.  I don't know why this is, and maybe I'm wrong.  Do white boys have a predisposition to indiscriminately shoot crowds of strangers?  I would agree with Kara on her sentiment that some people, even many people, should not have access to guns.

But looking at the one city I am most familiar with, Chicago often has several fatal shootings a weekend sometimes with several victims, including children, and it's not all being done by white boys.  These take place mostly in certain neighborhoods, and are not exactly indiscriminant.  They are driven by turf, drugs, and specific vendetta, although by-standers are often shot.

The point is, some people should not have access to guns.  That's its a white boy thing is mostly driven by perception we get from coverage of mass shootings, which are spectacular, but a small percentage of all shootings that take place on a daily basis.

pr126

#53
Hydra009 wrote:
QuoteNever once will it dawn on you that there's an error in your thinking, that your holy text isn't, that your tin god is just a small, flawed man unworthy of worship, and that people who disagree with you aren't in league with the devil.

I don't have to think. I let CNN do the thinking for me. The fountain of eternal truth.

Economic Growth Accelerates to 4.1%, Fastest Since 2014

Baruch

#54
Don't count your chickens yet.  The GDP, unemployment, and CPI stats are cooked by crooks.  Look at Shadowstats if you dare:

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/gross-domestic-product-charts

Using the same method used before 1985 to calculate GDP, the US has been in recession since 2005, without letup.  I would call that a depression, brought on by a long succession of incompetent administrations, starting with LBJ and the Vietnam War.  Look at the real unemployment:

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

Looks like a depression to me.  Y'all have been taken to the cleaners by grifters.

Keeping up the humor is hard, other than suicidal dark humor, since there is damn little to get a laugh from.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Shiranu

Quote from: pr126 on July 29, 2018, 09:07:45 AM
Hydra009 wrote:
I don't have to think. I let CNN do the thinking for me. The fountain of eternal truth.

Economic Growth Accelerates to 4.1%, Fastest Since 2014

It's almost like you have forgotten Obama was president for longer than 2 years...

From the Bureau of Economic Statistics...



It happened 4 (nearly 5) times under Obama, with one 6% growth and one 5% growth coming under his presidency... so a 4.1% is hardly "historic".


"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Baruch

#56
"My stats are better than your stats ... no they ain't, yes they are, no they Ain't" ... from Annie Get Your Economist

A series of dementia episodes ...

Clinton derangement syndrome
Bush derangement syndrome
Obama derangement syndrome
Trump derangement syndrome

Is the problem that Americans take too few drugs, or too many??
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

SGOS

Quote from: Baruch on July 29, 2018, 09:52:23 AM
Don't count your chickens yet.  The GDP, unemployment, and CPI stats are cooked by crooks.  Look at Shadowstats if you dare:

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/gross-domestic-product-charts

Using the same method used before 1985 to calculate GDP, the US has been in recession since 2005, without letup.  I would call that a depression, brought on by a long succession of incompetent administrations, starting with LBJ and the Vietnam War.  Look at the real unemployment:

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

Looks like a depression to me.  Y'all have been taken to the cleaners by grifters.

Keeping up the humor is hard, other than suicidal dark humor, since there is damn little to get a laugh from.
I'm suspect of any data released by the government.  I think the first hit was when they were declaring 1% inflation,\ when I knew my expenses were up at least 25%.  Even if I was exaggerating in my head, I seriously doubted the  government's claim.  Then I learned inflation is determined by a sample of basket indicators.  Indicators are removed from the basket and replaced by others.  The government claims that some indicators are no longer indicative of actual inflation, and have to be replaced.

But who determines this and by what method?  Well, the government of course, and think of how they can manipulate the basket to produce the results they want.   Recession since 2005?  It's probably been longer than that. Or maybe there was a slight uptick in 2005 which became a new baseline.

Shiranu

*Trigger warning for our resident snowflakes*

Warning - This video contains a successful brown woman who busted her ass off talking about helping the working class. May cause severe butthurt and irrational lashing out. You have been warned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUmIdCClbTE
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

SGOS

Quote from: Shiranu on July 29, 2018, 10:01:56 AM
It's almost like you have forgotten Obama was president for longer than 2 years...

From the Bureau of Economic Statistics...
Yeah, but didn't Trump himself say something like,  "Since I have been president, we have never before seen such unprecedented growth."  He would never exaggerate like that.  It's just not in his nature.