Why is Marxism so Attractive?

[Baruch]

I don't see the logic in advocating a system you don't believe can actually work...

Human beings don't work.  They want to sleep all day in a hammock, with a cold drink and a hot woman (or man).

[Baruch]

Belle isn't blond or blue eyed enough, or frigid enough so I have heard ;-)

[Cavebear]

Human beings don't work.  They want to sleep all day in a hammock, with a cold drink and a hot woman (or man).

If humans didn't organize, work, accumulate enough successfully, differentiate labor for specialists to arise, etc, we would still be living in caves knee deep in our own shit.

Sleeping all day in a hammock, even with "benefits" gets old fast.  We advanced due to people who worked, questioned the current mythology, and proved it wrong (step by step).  Theists have basically been a drag on the learning.

Name anything theists have given to society (other than a believe in the non-existent, which I consider no benefit) that has actually advanced human knowledge.

[Hakurei Reimu]

Again, as an advocate for the free market, I wasn't aware that I believed that.

You don't need to believe that in order to be an advocate for the free market, but in order for the free market to work as well as you believe it will, you need the perfect man. Period.

[Mr.Obvious]

Marxism is a step toward communism. Socialism is communism lite.

See Venezuela.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SP2cXoeOxY

Communists would probably say modern socialism is just capitalism lite.
The way I see it, all modern wellfare states implement 'socialism' to some degree in their system. And for a society to function, I do believe some dosage is necessary.
I am a socialist, by the way. At least in that sense.

[Baruch]

You don't need to believe that in order to be an advocate for the free market, but in order for the free market to work as well as you believe it will, you need the perfect man. Period.

For perfect Socialism/Communism .. you need the New Soviet Man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNRlbn7_zHY

Brought to you the "Friends of Ho Chi Minh"

[Hakurei Reimu]

^ Yes, glad you were paying attention to my previous messages where I made exactly that point.

[Baruch]

There is both a left and a right shoe.  They both fit, on the correct feet.

[Cavebear]

For perfect Socialism/Communism .. you need the New Soviet Man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNRlbn7_zHY

Brought to you the "Friends of Ho Chi Minh"

That graphic is really quite a complicated symbolic image.  To the point of being incomprehensible.  Oh I'm sure someone can explain a lot of it.  But it really falls into "bad art almost meaningful".

[Atheon]

Why don't you ask trump? Full-on communist dictator wannabe that he is, he wants a communist-style military parade in Washington.

For as much as Republicans say they hate Communism (and Islam), they looooove to emulate Communists (and religious theocrats) to a tee.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/07/donald-trumps-demand-military-parade-draws-comparisons-dictators/

[Cavebear]

Why don't you ask trump? Full-on communist dictator wannabe that he is, he wants a communist-style military parade in Washington.

For as much as Republicans say they hate Communism (and Islam), they looooove to emulate Communists (and religious theocrats) to a tee.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/07/donald-trumps-demand-military-parade-draws-comparisons-dictators/

It is actually frightening to see how Republicans have switched from being "democracy-around-the-world" to authoritarianism here.  There is a disturbing suggestion of "one election, one time" among them. 

I don't what has changed about them to cause this authoritorian choice.  Perhaps it is that they finally got control over all 3 branches of government and want desperately to make it permanent?

[Atheon]

The Republicans have been yearning for dictatorship for decades. Their supposed championing of democracy around the world has always been a sham (one that I saw decades ago). They love to say one thing and do another. The only thing that has changed is they are no longer hiding their true nature. They ARE the very communists/nazis/islamists (i.e. anti-democratic autocrats) they claim to oppose.

And people wonder why I oppose the Republicans so vehemently. THIS IS WHY.

Yet the right-wing sycophants will continue to worship his ass like he's lord gawd almighty because they are too stupid to understand reality, having been duped by right-wing propaganda.

[Cavebear]

The Republicans have been yearning for dictatorship for decades. Their supposed championing of democracy around the world has always been a sham (one that I saw decades ago). They love to say one thing and do another. The only thing that has changed is they are no longer hiding their true nature. They ARE the very communists/nazis/islamists (i.e. anti-democratic autocrats) they claim to oppose.

And people wonder why I oppose the Republicans so vehemently. THIS IS WHY.

Yet the right-wing sycophants will continue to worship his ass like he's lord gawd almighty because they are too stupid to understand reality, having been duped by right-wing propaganda.

I agree.  That's it.  "I agree".  You said it right.

[Baruch]

It is actually frightening to see how Republicans have switched from being "democracy-around-the-world" to authoritarianism here.  There is a disturbing suggestion of "one election, one time" among them. 

I don't what has changed about them to cause this authoritorian choice.  Perhaps it is that they finally got control over all 3 branches of government and want desperately to make it permanent?

Every party is partisan.  That is tautological.  The Republicans have been authoritarian since they were Wigs.  New England Uber Alles.  Of course Democrats are based on slavery, and still are.

[Cavebear]

Every party is partisan.  That is tautological.  The Republicans have been authoritarian since they were Wigs.  New England Uber Alles.  Of course Democrats are based on slavery, and still are.

Have you not YET figured out that the parties switched sides in the 1960s?  Yeah, party=partisan, duh.  I dislike both parties and most of the minor ones.  I am not entirely on any party's side because none is entirely on MY side.