Started by Absurd Atheist, April 22, 2017, 04:41:17 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on June 22, 2017, 12:35:05 PMYour acknowledgement of a source does not make it so. That is simply your belief. Look Pops, you make the assumption that most other theists make--that I popped out of my mother an atheist and have simply been too busy or uninterested to look for meaning and purpose--in everything. And you further assume that only theists like you have enough intelligence to figure things out. And you expect me to bow to your greater intellect--and even more importantly, to you greater belief and faith for the Truth has been revealed to you and it should be evident that that is so. Simply take your word and be 'saved' or at least in the know. Well, Pops, I'd like to make a request--one made to me by my DI in basic training all the time--get you head out of your ass!!!I have spent a life time searching for meaning, purpose and Truth. I have examined many many avenues. I've overturned such rocks as two christian churches and was the board president in one. I turned over the meditation rock--the new age rock--the astrology rock--graphology rock--and some others I've forgotten about. What it comes down to Pops, is that nature is what is. There is no supernatural stuff--no spirits--no god(s)--no Jesus or any other savior. There is only one savior and that is you--and only for yourself. We live, we experience life, we die. That's it. I have asked you time and again for proof that that is not so. All you can come up with is personal experience--yours or others. That is not proof. So, get your head out of your ass and give me some proof!
Quote from: Cavebear on June 23, 2017, 04:49:48 AMWhen I watch a fantasy movie, I allow the created world they provide to be real for a time. But when the movie is over, so is the created reality. Theists don't do that. They persist. They not only think it is true for themselves, but they demand it must also be true for all other people.
Quote from: SGOS on June 23, 2017, 08:51:56 AMOK, one more try and explaining my reaction to the phenomenon. It's like there can be no acceptance of fantasy, because fantasy is morally wrong. Something with the nature of fantasy can only be viewed as certifiably real, or certifiably false, and in addition it must be judged and subsequently embraced whole heartedly or thrown into a category of thoughts that are worthy of contempt.
Quote from: Cavebear on June 29, 2017, 05:12:08 AMIs it possible that, if the religious accept other fantasies as even temporarily real, it equates fantasy with their own beliefs? In other words, if they accept one bit of fantasy, it conflates to their own?