why does the usa hate fidel

[Baruch]

I've always been a Bigendian, unless they're out of power, in which case I'm a Littleendian.

Was Hiawatha a big Indian or a little Indian? ;-)

[GrinningYMIR]

I don't like Castro because he was a dictator for life and wanted to and with full documentation of, the soviets to use the nukes in Cuba when there was a minor threat of invasion, not even counting the blockade. For whatever supposed good he did if you're defending someone that wanted to eradicate your entire nation with nuclear fire and by extension the world since the US would have managed to get a few nukes off, then you really need to get your priorities straight.

[Baruch]

Lovely to be able to believe what you want to believe is believable.

As any observer of the religious would note, it is easy to convince yourself of something ... but harder to convince others.  Overcoming this is called marketing.

[Baruch]

I don't like Castro because he was a dictator for life and wanted to and with full documentation of, the soviets to use the nukes in Cuba when there was a minor threat of invasion, not even counting the blockade. For whatever supposed good he did if you're defending someone that wanted to eradicate your entire nation with nuclear fire and by extension the world since the US would have managed to get a few nukes off, then you really need to get your priorities straight.

I wish this were true ... Castro and Kruschev overplayed their hand (in response to the failure of Bay of Pigs and the presence of intermediate missiles the US had close to Russia).  If a single Marine landed in Cuba, both Castro and Kruschev were going to employ tactical nukes to repel them.  And half of the US government was desperate to get rid of the threat of Castro and nearby Soviet military .. enough to invade Cuba with regular military instead of Exiles.  This was always plan B.

Half of the US leadership was Dr Strangelove back in those days ... and they still are.  Castro was willing to nuke the US, to keep himself in power .. Kruschev not so much ... a quid pro quo was sufficient for the Soviets.  But now, with nuclear weapons just a few miles from St Petersburg (in the Baltics) ... we have completely dropped that quid pro quo.  We want the Russians dead ... period.  This was also after repeated attempts by Kennedy to assassinate Castro.  And we also tried to assassinate the President of France (DeGaulle).

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Castro controlled no nukes.

[GrinningYMIR]

Castro controlled no nukes.

That's why I said he wanted the soviets to.

[Atheon]

Because he's a communist dictator. The US hates communist dictators. The US loves fascist dictators.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

Was he better than Batista? Yes.
Was he a great guy? Ask some of the Cubans in Florida who had the flee persecution.

[Unbeliever]

why do us citizens hate fidel castro, he was a man who fought against a fascist government, significantly raised the living standards of cuba, and made one of the only ecologically sustainable developed countries on the planet.

My guess would be that America (at least the controlling powers) hate Castro because they can't control him.

[Shiranu]

I guess we should have traded with a country that was inimical to our body politic? Japan in 1941, perhaps, or Nazi Germany?

He asked for our aide before turning to Russia... and that was after he overthrew the American backed dictator who was far worse than him.

He offered peace, and we told him to go fuck himself. That anti- American interest is completely our fault.

[Baruch]

Castro controlled no nukes.

Correct, the Soviets wouldn't let them.  They are not as stupid as Americans (letting Israelis control nukes).  Castro asked Kruschev to allow a first strike on the US ... and Kruschev said no.  But had the Marines landed, the answer was yes.

[Baruch]

He asked for our aide before turning to Russia... and that was after he overthrew the American backed dictator who was far worse than him.

He offered peace, and we told him to go fuck himself. That anti- American interest is completely our fault.

Also Vietnam.  Castro when young, wanted to be a pro baseball player in the US.  Ho Chi Minh admired the US, and wanted our help, but we told him to go fuck himself already in 1945.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Also Vietnam.  Castro when young, wanted to be a pro baseball player in the US.  Ho Chi Minh admired the US, and wanted our help, but we told him to go fuck himself already in 1945.

Yeah, we were supposed to go to war with France to allow IndoChina to go free?

[Baruch]

Yeah, we were supposed to go to war with France to allow IndoChina to go free?

If the US weren't the 4th Reich ... we should have told the French to go lots of places .. and take their cheeses too!  There was a problem both before and after WW II, considering the instability of the dying European colonialism.  This wouldn't have been a problem (weak European states) if they hadn't tried to commit suicide twice.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

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