A Journalist Returned from Aleppo on Western Media Lies

Started by drunkenshoe, December 19, 2016, 09:24:31 AM

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drunkenshoe

"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

pr126

Thank you for posting this video. Very informative.

BTW, the White Helmets have been exposed for what they are some time ago. Follow the money.

Baruch

Any news, different from CIA/MI6 bullshit .. is fake news!
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chill98

could have cross posted this vid in a few relevant threads.  Nice find.

Shiranu

From a strictly pragmatic point of view, Al Asad's regime regaining control is unfortunately the best possible solution we can hope for. We don't care about stability, we care about sticking it to Russia and not admitting we fucked up yet again by backing evil men. Peace will never come out of this constant conflict, and out of all potential victors... Al Asad is the most humane choice. Restore his stability, then work on peaceful means of moderating his regime.

America's pride is more important than civilian lives... nothing new there. It's like we didn't learn a single thing from the Cold War.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Baruch

Americans love dictators ... but only as long as we can dictate to them.  Americans hate civil rights, especially for foreigners.  Is that what you mean by learning the (negative) lessons of the Cold War?
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drunkenshoe

The journalist's points are refuted in the below link.

http://www.snopes.com/syrian-war-victims-are-being-recycled-and-al-quds-hospital-was-never-bombed/

Victim Blaming
The idea that victims of mass tragedies are "recycled" is a common theme among conspiracy theorists, but there are international reports and footage of the Al Quds Hospital attack.
"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett


Baruch

Quote from: pr126 on December 24, 2016, 07:26:00 AM
Why should one trust Snopes any more than other media publications?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2016/12/22/the-daily-mail-snopes-story-and-fact-checking-the-fact-checkers/#31e9bf651e02

Cofounder of Snopes made a lot of money, ran around the world as a sex tourist, divorced his wife, then married a porn actress.  Yes, we can trust people .... to be pigs.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

chill98

Quote from: drunkenshoe on December 24, 2016, 06:16:37 AM
The journalist's points are refuted in the below link.

http://www.snopes.com/syrian-war-victims-are-being-recycled-and-al-quds-hospital-was-never-bombed/

Victim Blaming
The idea that victims of mass tragedies are "recycled" is a common theme among conspiracy theorists, but there are international reports and footage of the Al Quds Hospital attack.

From the snope article itself:

According to interviews with staff present at Al Quds hospital during the attack, at exactly 9.37pm, a building across from the hospital, identified as Ain Jalout school, was struck by an airstrike. Following the first strike, Al Quds medical staff retrieved the wounded to transfer them to the hospital for medical care. Soon after, the Al Quds staff residence, located a few buildings down from the hospital, was hit by a second strike.

So no, the hospital was not bombed as claimed.  Was the school targeted?  Dont know.  Do rebels have a habit of waging war/gathering in positions that should be off limits?  Yes.  Do bombs miss their targets?  Yes.

Isis backed caliphate vs Assad dictatorship?  Assad wins.


drunkenshoe

I posted the article, because it needs to be posted. Posting material from one side is the whole problem. I don't have a belief on the situation. I want to learn what is really happening as much as possible.
"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

pr126

Quote from: Baruch on December 24, 2016, 08:55:11 AM
Cofounder of Snopes made a lot of money, ran around the world as a sex tourist, divorced his wife, then married a porn actress.  Yes, we can trust people .... to be pigs.

Apologies to pigs. No offense intended.