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Started by Atheon, November 10, 2016, 06:17:58 PM

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Atheon

Overt racism is on the rise in the People's Republic of TrumpMurica

"Donald Trump's victory followed by wave of hate crime attacks against minorities across US - led by his supporters"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-supporters-attack-muslims-hijab-hispanics-lgbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html
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chill98

Quote from: Atheon on November 10, 2016, 06:17:58 PM
Overt racism is on the rise in the People's Republic of TrumpMurica

"Donald Trump's victory followed by wave of hate crime attacks against minorities across US - led by his supporters"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-supporters-attack-muslims-hijab-hispanics-lgbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html
First story FAKE:

http://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/news/crime_police/article_2e351106-a74b-11e6-86d9-cf799c2824a8.html?sr_source=lift_amplify

2nd story Likely Fake:

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/2-Men-Cite-Trump-While-Robbing-SDSU-Student-Wearing-Hijab---400723761.html

Most parking garages have cameras also.

Many of the rest are dubious at best.

Of all these stories, with all the phone cameras, wheres the pics?  I know of ~zero~ gas stations without cameras. 

Some incidents probably happened.  There are assholes.  Like these PoS (with sound - leaving no doubt).

https://youtu.be/NYW3aVfW0Kk




Atheon

Ah, the good old tu quoque fallacy.

Yes, it looks like the hijab wearer attack was fake, but there's plenty of real going around:

https://twitter.com/ShaunKing

https://www.rt.com/usa/366358-racist-hate-crime-trump/
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Hydra009

This one, too.  Though that was way back in March.

chill98

Quote from: Atheon on November 10, 2016, 08:13:37 PM
Ah, the good old tu quoque fallacy.

Yes, it looks like the hijab wearer attack was fake, but there's plenty of real going around:

https://twitter.com/ShaunKing

https://www.rt.com/usa/366358-racist-hate-crime-trump/
tu quoque, sure if you ignore the point there was a video with the actual perps attacking someone for being a trump supporter while ignoring all the other 'evidence' you present could have been created to present a picture that appeals to your particular vulnerabilities right now.

It has already been proven to occur (faked situations).  So your sky is falling 'plenty of real crime going on' is conjecture at this point.  Yes vandalism is a crime regardless of the political affiliation of the perpetrator, but your quick to point to Trump just feeds your self-fulfilling prophecy - you already hate him and don't need excuses to carry it that one step further.

cant blame this one on Trump
http://wqad.com/2012/04/24/arrest-made-in-monmouth-flag-burning-case/

Cant blame this one on Trump:
https://www.queerty.com/gay-couples-pride-flag-burned-by-neighbor-outside-their-home-20150302

Cant blame this one on Trump:
http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/topic16541.html

Point being people have been destroying pride flags for a while.


Absurd Atheist

This is the real fear of a Trump legacy besides an all Republican government, that it doesn't matter if the President is racist or all of his voters are racist, but that racist people feel safe and encouraged under his Presidency.
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Yes, there are racist Americans.  I also hoped we had outgrown that ... that and homophobia ... but alas it would appear that Americans are not as exceptional as they think they are.
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Cavebear

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drunkenshoe

chill98, 'Racism and hate crimes already exist and other guys are doing it too' is NOT an argument.

Actualy, it's a strawman concerning this thread, because people here are not arguing that there was no racism or hate crimes to begin with, but that it is going to rise, may be even come as waves.

While it is early to talk about any sort of crime wave in America's case -because it is not a little island, but a 10 mil sq vast land- we CAN perfectly blame a politician who pursued a deliberate racist identity politics for the white America after it happened.








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drunkenshoe

But you are going to hear this bullshit a lot guys. Doesn't matter how things get worse. "It's not something new, it already existed, dems do it too. Nothing to do with Trump".
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Shiranu

When there are rednecks in Trump shirts on the quad yelling at brown people to "go back home" or calling LGBT people "fucking faggots", I think I have earned the right to maybe, just maybe, put a little bit of blame on Trump for encouraging those people.

I know, I know, that makes me a terrible person to say that. We cant all be perfect.
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Cavebear

Quote from: drunkenshoe on November 11, 2016, 03:22:42 AM
But you are going to hear this bullshit a lot guys. Doesn't matter how things get worse. "It's not something new, it already existed, dems do it too. Nothing to do with Trump".

Trump is President.

Trump will fix things.  He will fix everything.

He is going to be responsible for his promises.
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chill98

Quote from: Hydra009 on November 11, 2016, 12:07:12 AM


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/outrage-trump-inspired-congressional-candidate-wants-make-america-white-again-n597916
Quite a rally they got there LoL.   Where's the crowds of followers??  More like the GodHatesFags church appeal to the unwashed masses.  Yeah there are jerks out there but once again you have failed to pin this one on Trump.

Just shows how much of america does not support such things, despite your beliefs.